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LOL!Even that poll shows that most Americans disapprove of his tactics.
Voters Welcome Immigration Curbs but Say Tactics Go Too Far, WSJ Poll Finds
The poll found just over half of voters approve of Trump’s handling of illegal immigration, a centerpiece of his agenda, and that 62% of respondents favor deporting people who came to the country illegally. But the Trump administration’s mechanisms and levers for doing so are proving unpopular.
58% of voters oppose detaining and deporting people believed to be in the U.S. illegally without them seeing a judge or getting a hearing.
58% oppose deporting immigrants to prisons in other countries, such as El Salvador and South Sudan, where they have no personal connections.
62% say the government is simply deporting as many people as possible regardless of whether they have criminal records.
A slim majority of Americans hold an unfavorable view of ICE, while 45% hold a favorable view of the agency.
RCP's average of more than a dozen polls also shows that most Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of immigration.
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Way more than a dozen; and it's averaging in polls back from January.
President Trump Job Approval - Immigration | RealClearPolling
President Trump Job Approval - Immigration | RealClearPolling
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The WJS survey from 7/28 isn't on that list. Is excluding notable polls a scientific approach? If so, please explain the science.
I like this Harvard study. I wonder if they took a scientific approach.
A majority of voters gave President Trump’s immigration policies high marks, according to a Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released Monday.
Seventy-five percent of respondents also said they support the administration’s efforts to deport criminals who are in the country illegally, including 93 percent of Republicans, 70 percent of independents, and 59 percent of Democrats.
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I don't know why RCP excluded the WSJ poll, but even if the WSJ poll were included, the RCP polling average would still show that most Americans disapprove of Trump's immigration policies.
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That poll is included in the RCP polling average and it shows that 50% approve of Trump on Immigration.
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That depends on which polls they selectively chose to include in their average.
That doesn't sound very scientific.
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The margin of error for the total
sample is +/- 2.2 pts on a 95% confidence level.
That looks fairly scientific.
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That might depend on the person's circumstances, how long it takes to go through the legal process, and how likely one is to be approved through the legal process (which may be subject to quotas or require documentation that a person may be unable to provide, through no fault of their own).
A person in desperate straits - whether due to finances, violence, or other causes - is unlikely to be willing (or possibly even able) to wait years for their application to wind its way through the immigration process.
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That's news to me. My sources, including Karoline Leavitt, say otherwise.
Where are you getting your information?
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I don't know what you are trying to prove with those numbers. I'm not a Democrat--they're not far enough left for me, but I approve of closing the border. I also approve of prioritizing illegal aliens who have committed crimes while they are here. I only wish that was what Trump was actually doing.
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Note that those two questions are about very specific components of Trump's overall scheme. For most Americans, when you ask them about the administration's efforts to deport "criminals," they think about efforts to deport people with criminal records, especially violent criminals. I know it's popular for Trump's proponents to reframe that by stating that anyone here illegally is technically a "criminal," but that's not how most people think.
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Despite what some might "think" in their echo chambers...
Criminal Penalties for Improper Entry to the United States
For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.
For a subsequent offense, the person can be fined or imprisoned for up to two years, or both. (See 8 U.S.C. Section 1325, I.N.A. Section 275.)
Is It a Crime to Cross the U.S. Border Without Permission or Gain Entry By Fraud?
Illegal entry (or "improper entry") to the US carries criminal penalties (fines and jail or prison time), in addition to civil penalties and immigration consequences
www.alllaw.com
Maybe you missed this part:
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