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NT Wright says marriage won’t exist in Heaven, but love will be transformed

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Doesn't that mean the heavenly relationships between people who had a relationship in this life will be the same quality (not any more or less special) as the heavenly relationships between people who had no relationship in this life?

That would seem to mesh with the biblical understanding of justice; the child who died in infancy will not have any less joy than the person who had a full and rich childhood. The one who was shunned in this life will discover an abundance of fellowship in the Age to Come.

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That would seem to mesh with the biblical understanding of justice; the child who died in infancy will not have any less joy than the person who had a full and rich childhood. The one who was shunned in this life will discover an abundance of fellowship in the Age to Come.

-CryptoLutheran
That fills me with much hope! Glory to God in all things! :)
 
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Biblically speaking, nothing.

The Bible doesn't teach human beings are a "trinity", or what is more commonly call tripartism or trichotomism. Nor has this ever been the historic Christian perspective.

More common has been what is sometimes called dichotomism, man is a dichotomy of his material self (the body) and his immaterial self (the soul or spirit).

Sometimes this dichotomism also becomes a problem, biblically and theologically, when it gets forced too hard into an overtly Platonic dualism; Platonic dualism would view "the soul" as the "true self" and the body as in some sense lesser, inferior, or a facade hiding the true self of the soul. Think of what Yoda says in Star Wars, "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter" this is a very Platonic way of seeing things, and taken excessively leads to various Gnostic and heretical ideas--such as that the body is evil and false, because physical matter is inferior/evil.

But taken simply and non dualistically, the dichotomy of body and soul is a helpful way of understanding biblical teaching that human beings were created as rational, thinking, relational, and moral creatures-we aren't just our bodies, but we aren't flighty souls trapped in bodies either. We are fully integrated, fully bodied, fully "souled" creatures who reason, who were created to love God, reflect God, love each other, and be God's Image bearers in creation. This means that when the body dies, we don't merely cease to exist--there is something about us that can exist even without and apart from the body--but this isn't how we were made or intended to exist, it is an unnatural severing of body and soul caused by the unnatural reality of death, which is an affliction upon the whole cosmos wrought by and perpetuating sin.

The Bible, when speaking of human beings, uses a lot of terms to describe the "parts" of human beings--body, mind, soul, spirit, heart--to name some of the most common. We wouldn't, therefore speak of a quadrinity of human beings by speaking also of the mind or the heart; or a quintity by speaking of the mind and heart along with body, soul, spirit. Instead we understand that, biblicaly speaking, and according to the historic faith of the Church, that the human person can be described as "more than the body" and so there is something about us that gives us an "us-ness" even apart from the body (and yet, this body of ours is also very much us--my body is also me); so this dichotomous language that there is a material and immaterial dimension to the human person is something we have historically and continuously seen throughout Christian history, going back to Scripture itself.

There is, therefore, no reason to regard the human soul and the human spirit fully independent things--but rather both "soul" and "spirit" are ways of speaking of the rational, emotive, relational, spiritual, and trans-material quality of the human creature.

-CryptoLutheran
And in LUKE 16:22. the rich man soul is in. HELL.

And his body is in. the Grave

AND ELL 12:7 , says his spirit GOES back to God that gave it , ECC. 12:7 that gave it to him. and this where

those. that died under the Law , called the Old Covenant ,

AND in 1. Cor 5:1-5 , that man died

In verse 5 he was turned over to Satan for the death of the Flesh

so that the SIRIT may be saved for the DAY of the LORD /

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And in LUKE 16:22. the rich man soul is in. HELL.

And his body is in. the Grave

AND ELL 12:7 , says his spirit GOES back to God that gave it , ECC. 12:7 that gave it to him. and this where

those. that died under the Law , called the Old Covenant ,

AND in 1. Cor 5:1-5 , that man died

In verse 5 he was turned over to Satan for the death of the Flesh

so that the SIRIT may be saved for the DAY of the LORD /

dan p


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And 1. THESS 5:2 Says , and may youpentire spirit and soul and body !!

dan p
 
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And 1. THESS 5:2 Says , and may youpentire spirit and soul and body !!

dan p

And Philippians 4:7 says

"And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

So I guess that's five things: spirit, soul, body, heart, and mind. I'm sure if we want we could find more.

In fact, 1 Timothy 1:19 also mentions the human conscience,

"Holding faith and a good conscience."

So I suppose that's six things: body, spirit, soul, mind, heart, and conscience.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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