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Coming Out In The Vatican A Homosexual Theocracy

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But are they following their vows? I was under the impression that they aren’t. Then there’s the abuse scandals.
Correct. There’s a small percentage of clergy who broke their vow of celibacy.
 
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Will the RCC EVER loosen up on the celibacy rule and / or ordain openly gay priests and / or allow priests to marry? It seems to me that this is the only way to solve the problem of closeted homosexual clergy in the Church.
There are married priests in the Eastern rite and Anglican Ordinariate. In some cases, priests who converted from Protestant denominations who are married are allowed to keep their wives and children.

It’s a discipline, not a doctrine.
 
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Will the RCC EVER loosen up on the celibacy rule and / or ordain openly gay priests and / or allow priests to marry? It seems to me that this is the only way to solve the problem of closeted homosexual clergy in the Church.
It would do nothing toward eliminating homosexual clergy. While some Catholic priests are married, for singles who are ordained into the priesthood celibacy is a discipline they accept if they wish to be a priest.
 
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I know all faiths have gays in their ranks but I was also under them impression impression that it’s worse among the Catholic clergy.
It could have been worse in the latter part of the last century. But now they do intensive screening and reporting, and for many years the number of new credible abuse cases each year in the United States has been in the single digits.
 
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It could have been worse in the latter part of the last century. But now they do intensive screening and reporting, and for many many years the number of new credible abuse cases has been in the single digits.
Yup. Most of credibly accused priests are long dead or out of ministry.
 
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Yup. Most of credibly accused priests are long dead or out of ministry.
….and they ultimately answered to God for their crimes.

We warned by Our Lady of Fatima there would be “priests from hell.”
 
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Ever heard of the Metropolitan Community Church? It was actually founded by a gay man that originally only had gay members. The first straight member was the founder’s mother.

I think they’re liturgical and celebrate Communion weekly.

I know one of their ministers became a Catholic priest later on.
I’ve never heard of them.
 
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The Church was infiltrated by communists. Bella Dodd, former communist, admitted this to Venerable Fulton Sheen.
I don’t understand. What does communism have to do with this?
 
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I don’t understand. What does communism have to do with this?
Communists were trying to destroy the Church from within.
 
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I know all faiths have gays in their ranks but I was also under them impression impression that it’s worse among the Catholic clergy.
No it’s just publicized more. Churches that have gay bishops, etc. Don’t get nearly enough airtime.
 
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There is a part 1 as well.

The Long-Awaited Sequel to the Highly-Acclaimed “A Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing”

EWTN’s new film, “A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing II – The Gender Agenda,” examines the origins and depravity of the so-called Sexual Revolution, with its current emphasis on gender dysphoria and homosexuality, and explains how the battle over marriage and family will be won.

The film airs at 10 p.m. ET Thursday, Oct. 15; and Saturday, Oct. 17. The Oct. 17 airing will be preceded at 8:30 p.m. ET by the original “A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing” documentary, which explores the rise of Marxism in the U.S.

The new film begins with Jean Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir, whose existential philosophy started a dumbing-down of the culture. But the two-hour program really shines in its exposure of Alfred Kinsey’s fake science and child abuse, which kicked off the Sexual Revolution, and its corresponding assault on marriage and family.


 
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Dr. Fèdèric Martel has a PhD in social science, and master’s degrees in law, political science, philosophy, social science. He is a visiting professor at Harvard and since 2025, is a professor at the University of Zurich. He spent four years traveling to more than thirty countries interviewing 1,500 priests, bishops and cardinals. The result of this extensive research is the NY Times Bestseller, In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy.

Dr. Martel is homosexual who researches and writes about same-sex cultures in the modern world. He became interested in the Vatican and its culture of homophobia. He said: “I am like St. Thomas: I need to check to believe. So I had to spend a long time investigating. . .” (Martel, viii ). His research revealed: “The Vatican has one of the biggest gay communities in the world” (Martel xi).

A Homophobic System

During his interactions with Catholic clergy, Dr. Martel felt he’d,


The Vatican is a culture soaked in homoeroticism. Priests who didn’t recognize themselves as gay before living in Vatican City, “discovered their homosexuality. . . when they started working at the Vatican” (Martel, 10).

A Homosexual System Explained


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Just a question; I'm curious. Isn't it perfectly acceptable in the RCC to be gay and a priest so long as one is celibate? I take it the scandal is that some are not being celibate. But if homosexuality were prevalent among priests (and more so the higher one goes in the hierarchy), and they were all legitimately celibate, it would not be an issue, right? Or, would it still be an issue?
 
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Just a question; I'm curious. Isn't it perfectly acceptable in the RCC to be gay and a priest so long as one is celibate? I take it the scandal is that some are not being celibate. But if homosexuality were prevalent among priests (and more so the higher one goes in the hierarchy), and they were all legitimately celibate, it would not be an issue, right? Or, would it still be an issue?
As long as they are celibate and staying true to their vows, and the teachings of the Church, there is not an issue.
 
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Just a question; I'm curious. Isn't it perfectly acceptable in the RCC to be gay and a priest so long as one is celibate? I take it the scandal is that some are not being celibate. But if homosexuality were prevalent among priests (and more so the higher one goes in the hierarchy), and they were all legitimately celibate, it would not be an issue, right? Or, would it still be an issue?
Yes. Henri nouwen is one example.
 
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