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Bank executives blow the whistle on how Obama, Biden admins pressured them to debank conservatives

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n the wake of President Donald Trump's executive order outlawing debanking, major bank executives told Fox News Digital that they were under pressure by the Obama and Biden administrations to deny services to individuals and businesses for political reasons.

"Those pressures were very, very real. When your regulator gives you a suggestion, it’s not a suggestion, it’s an order. The political stuff is very real, those pressures are real," a senior banking executive told Fox News Digital.

Debanking refers to the practice of banks closing accounts or denying services to individuals or businesses, often with no explanation. The practice originated as part of federal anti-money laundering laws and regulations. An entity can be debanked after its transactions are marked suspicious, but in recent years, conservative and religious groups have accused banks of discriminating against them for their beliefs.

Fox News Digital spoke with two executives at leading U.S. banks, who asked to remain anonymous, fearing reprisals.
The executives said that ambiguity in federal laws was exploited by regulators under the Obama and Biden administrations in order to pursue political objectives. According to one executive, banks were pressured to deny services to certain industries as part of Operation Choke Point and Operation Choke Point 2.0.

"When there’s ambiguity in the law, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and for a long time the beholder was the Obama and Biden administration," the official said.

A House Oversight Committee report found that "Operation Choke Point," a DOJ task force whose aim was to "choke out" legal companies disfavored by the Obama administration, worked with bank regulators to label certain industries, including firearms sales, as "high risk."

Trump ended "Operation Choke Point" in 2017 during his first term. However, a House Financial Services Committee hearing last week heard accusations that former President Joe Biden had rebooted the initiative and targeted crypto firms for debanking as part of "Operation Choke Point 2.0."

Trump claimed to be a victim of debanking, and accused JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and others of refusing more than $1 billion in his deposits. First lady Melania Trump wrote in her memoir that she and her son Barron were debanked, as well.

"I was shocked and dismayed to learn that my long‑time bank decided to terminate my account and deny my son the opportunity to open a new one.… This decision appeared to be rooted in political discrimination, raising serious concerns about civil rights violations," Melania wrote.

 

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Totalitarians Governments move to control Banking, the Media, and private companies. In Trumps case, if they can't imp[each, imprison or discourage him - the next avenue is debanking and attempting to bankrupt.
 
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Wait a minute. Despite the idea that, yes, crypto and payday loans (not political opponents) should not exist without regulation. Yet the idea that some are complaining about a president admin pressuring businesses through regulation is beyond kind of rich.
 
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Wait a minute. Despite the idea that, yes, crypto and payday loans (not political opponents) should not exist without regulation. Yet the idea that some are complaining about a president admin pressuring businesses through regulation is beyond kind of rich.
Are you suggesting that you don't have a problem with the government pressuring banks to debank people who disagree with the government?
 
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Are you suggesting that you don't have a problem with the government pressuring banks to debank people who disagree with the government?
No, what I am saying is Obama was doing is, "root out fraud by banks and payment processors and to cut off the banking system from wrongdoing by merchants." Of course those enacting fraud are going to have issue with their ability to enact abuse for profit. There was nothing political about this. You do know that article is from one the the most disreputable news orgs out there. Their framing is disingenuous.
 
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No, what I am saying is Obama was doing is, "root out fraud by banks and payment processors and to cut off the banking system from wrongdoing by merchants." Of course those enacting fraud are going to have issue with their ability to enact abuse for profit. There was nothing political about this. You do know that article is from one the the most disreputable news orgs out there. Their framing is disingenuous.
I'm not surprised that you don't accept the facts in that article. After all, the facts made the Obama and Biden administration look bad for their wrong doings.
 
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I'm not surprised that you don't accept the facts in that article. After all, the facts made the Obama and Biden administration look bad for their wrong doings.
The "facts" of the article are claims made by those in a GOP house hearing. The reality is yes, Obama et al were regulating banking actions given, not political opponents, but fraud.
 
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I'm not surprised that you don't accept the facts in that article. After all, the facts made the Obama and Biden administration look bad for their wrong doings.
Like…trying to regulate the sector that, (at the time), broke the economy five years previous?
Please have some sense In your partisan wranglings.
 
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Like…trying to regulate the sector that, (at the time), broke the economy five years previous?
Please have some sense In your partisan wranglings.
Debanking people who disagree with the government is NOT legal. Please have some sense in your responses.
 
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The "facts" of the article are claims made by those in a GOP house hearing. The reality is yes, Obama et al were regulating banking actions given, not political opponents, but fraud.
Nope. You are incorrect.
 
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Debanking people who disagree with the government is NOT legal.
Debanking people because they disagree with the government is (probably) illegal. That's not the same thing as what you said though.
 
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Nope. You are incorrect.
Absolutely correct:

"The Task Force was created in 2009 with the understanding that no matter the office or agency -- federal, state, or local; law enforcement or regulatory -- all of us within government share a common desire and have a core obligation to do everything that we can to protect the American public from the often devastating effects of financial fraud, whether it be mortgage fraud or investment fraud, grant or procurement fraud, consumer fraud or fraud in lending. And we know that we can accomplish so much more by working together than by working in isolated, compartmentalized silos. Through the efforts of the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force, that’s exactly what we’ve done.""

...or do you see banking fraud or regulation of the wild wild west crypto currency as a GOP political agenda that Dems target?
 
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n the wake of President Donald Trump's executive order outlawing debanking, major bank executives told Fox News Digital that they were under pressure by the Obama and Biden administrations to deny services to individuals and businesses for political reasons.

"Those pressures were very, very real. When your regulator gives you a suggestion, it’s not a suggestion, it’s an order. The political stuff is very real, those pressures are real," a senior banking executive told Fox News Digital.

Debanking refers to the practice of banks closing accounts or denying services to individuals or businesses, often with no explanation. The practice originated as part of federal anti-money laundering laws and regulations. An entity can be debanked after its transactions are marked suspicious, but in recent years, conservative and religious groups have accused banks of discriminating against them for their beliefs.

Fox News Digital spoke with two executives at leading U.S. banks, who asked to remain anonymous, fearing reprisals.
The executives said that ambiguity in federal laws was exploited by regulators under the Obama and Biden administrations in order to pursue political objectives. According to one executive, banks were pressured to deny services to certain industries as part of Operation Choke Point and Operation Choke Point 2.0.

"When there’s ambiguity in the law, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and for a long time the beholder was the Obama and Biden administration," the official said.

A House Oversight Committee report found that "Operation Choke Point," a DOJ task force whose aim was to "choke out" legal companies disfavored by the Obama administration, worked with bank regulators to label certain industries, including firearms sales, as "high risk."

Trump ended "Operation Choke Point" in 2017 during his first term. However, a House Financial Services Committee hearing last week heard accusations that former President Joe Biden had rebooted the initiative and targeted crypto firms for debanking as part of "Operation Choke Point 2.0."

Trump claimed to be a victim of debanking, and accused JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and others of refusing more than $1 billion in his deposits. First lady Melania Trump wrote in her memoir that she and her son Barron were debanked, as well.

"I was shocked and dismayed to learn that my long‑time bank decided to terminate my account and deny my son the opportunity to open a new one.… This decision appeared to be rooted in political discrimination, raising serious concerns about civil rights violations," Melania wrote.

Oh goodness, golly gee! Banks enforcing banking regulations is now "debanking'. We all know that this is just to solidify Trump & Sons foray into crypto where they have already made a killing in the first few months of Trump Daddy's new term. And they wanted to "get" Hunter Biden for profiting off his daddy's name!
 
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Oh goodness, golly gee! Banks enforcing banking regulations is now "debanking'. We all know that this is just to solidify Trump & Sons foray into crypto where they have already made a killing in the first few months of Trump Daddy's new term. And they wanted to "get" Hunter Biden for profiting off his daddy's name!
They were not enforcing banking regulations. They were debanking people who disagreed with and were in opposition to the Obama and Biden administrations. Why don't Democrats have a problem with that?
 
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Absolutely correct:

"The Task Force was created in 2009 with the understanding that no matter the office or agency -- federal, state, or local; law enforcement or regulatory -- all of us within government share a common desire and have a core obligation to do everything that we can to protect the American public from the often devastating effects of financial fraud, whether it be mortgage fraud or investment fraud, grant or procurement fraud, consumer fraud or fraud in lending. And we know that we can accomplish so much more by working together than by working in isolated, compartmentalized silos. Through the efforts of the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force, that’s exactly what we’ve done.""

...or do you see banking fraud or regulation of the wild wild west crypto currency is as a GOP political agenda that Dems target?
They were actively targeting their political opponents. It was not fraud at all that was targeted, but political opponents.
 
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They were actively targeting their political opponents. It was not fraud at all that was targeted, but political opponents.
You just read what they were doing. That's ok, I expect nothing less.
 
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You just read what they were doing. That's ok, I expect nothing less.
And I expect nothing less from you as well. It really does look like you are totally okay with the federal government weaponizing banks against the political opponents of the Obama and Biden administration. Re-read the article in the op and then once again come back and post whether or not you are okay with that.
 
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They were not enforcing banking regulations. They were debanking people who disagreed with and were in opposition to the Obama and Biden administrations.
These are not mutually exclusive provisions. People can both violate banking regulations and be in opposition to the current presidential administration. In other words, you're going to need some evidence for your assertion that this wasn't about banking regulations.
 
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And I expect nothing less from you as well. It really does look like you are totally okay with the federal government weaponizing banks against the political opponents of the Obama and Biden administration. Re-read the article in the op and then once again come back and post whether or not you are okay with that.
I would have a problem with the federal government weaponizing private institutions. Which is why I oppose Trump doing just that. Obama and Biden were not doing that. They were focusing on three things. Banks providing services to unscrupulous gun dealers were a point of focus. Payday loan institutions and those "Get Shorty shylock" practices were a point of focus. And the wild wild west of crypto currency was of focus for regs. Instead you suggest I read the article from the institution that admits it lies (as proven in court) for the GOP. Do you want to read Jeanine Pirro's newly uncovered emails? My suggestion is instead of having that disingenuous "news" source tell you what it is, why not read what it actually is...aka the actual source I provided.
 
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