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I anticipate Trump pulling ANY aid for Ukraine when Zelenskyy inevitably rejects Trump's farcical 'deal'.
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There is a fair probability that something positive might also develop:
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If the USA was invaded, I would expect us to fight and win our own wars, rather than depend on the rest of the world to help us defeat Russia.
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Zelenskyy returns to White House flanked by European allies as Trump pressures land deal with Putin
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy met with President Donald Trump at the White House on Monday, alongside several European allies. Trump has urged Zelenskyy to accept a land swap deal with Russia after meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday.
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Zelenskyy returns to White House flanked by European allies as Trump pressures land deal with Putin
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy met with President Donald Trump at the White House on Monday, alongside several European allies. Trump has urged Zelenskyy to accept a land swap deal with Russia after meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday.
Did you have a point to make?
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You mean the "off Mic" remark by Trump. Did Fox have a different "off Mic" to report?
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Trump moves to broker Putin-Zelenskyy meeting following DC peace talks
President Trump announces plans for trilateral meeting with Putin and Zelenskyy after the pair meet one-on-one following Monday's peace talks with Europeans from the White House.
Looks like the talks with Zelenskyy went well and now we're going to have a trilateral meeting with Trump, Zelenskyy and Putin.
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The Putin-Trump deal on the table
IT SEEM CLEAR THAT
Ukraine would be expected to accept giving up the provinces where Russia invaded and has held elections. Much of these territories are now held by Russia.
Russia would be expected to accept the sovereignty of Ukraine and security measures guaranteed by the US and by European countries
Russia would gain veto power over who can join NATO, now excluding Ukraine (Moldova would be next).
THESE WILL BE STICKING POINTS
Ukraine does not want to give up land that Russia has not yet been able to capture, including 3 important fortified cities.
Russia probably won't accept European troops or bases in Ukraine and would try to reduce the strength of its military
Russia probably won't accept Ukranian rights to import modern missiles.
THERE WON'T BE A FINAL TREATY
any more than there is one in Korea, Cypress and a half dozen more
FOR ME, ONE IMPORTANT STEP
is for European countries to get more sophisticated weapons to Ukraine before Trump changes his mind.
IT SEEM CLEAR THAT
Ukraine would be expected to accept giving up the provinces where Russia invaded and has held elections. Much of these territories are now held by Russia.
Russia would be expected to accept the sovereignty of Ukraine and security measures guaranteed by the US and by European countries
Russia would gain veto power over who can join NATO, now excluding Ukraine (Moldova would be next).
THESE WILL BE STICKING POINTS
Ukraine does not want to give up land that Russia has not yet been able to capture, including 3 important fortified cities.
Russia probably won't accept European troops or bases in Ukraine and would try to reduce the strength of its military
Russia probably won't accept Ukranian rights to import modern missiles.
THERE WON'T BE A FINAL TREATY
any more than there is one in Korea, Cypress and a half dozen more
FOR ME, ONE IMPORTANT STEP
is for European countries to get more sophisticated weapons to Ukraine before Trump changes his mind.
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White House Is Preparing for Trump-Putin-Zelensky Trilateral Meeting in Budapest: REPORT | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran
Peace may break out in Budapest.
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It appears that Budapest, Hungary has been chosen as the meeting site for the trilateral peace talks.
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Shades of the Louis restaurant?White House Is Preparing for Trump-Putin-Zelensky Trilateral Meeting in Budapest: REPORT | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran
Peace may break out in Budapest.
It appears that Budapest, Hungary has been chosen as the meeting site for the trilateral peace talks.
(The Godfather, 1972)
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I know the place. Quiet, the locals mind their own business.
Donnie, order the goulash. I'll leave a gun for you taped behind the tank of the toilet. Ask permission to go to the toilet..
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Good news! This is important:
The “most important” outcome of the meeting was the “U.S. commitment to work with us on providing security guarantees,” French President Emmanuel Macron told reporters.
But unless Putin has a 'road to Damascus' moment - it's all just silly political posturing. IF Putin even turns up! As the article continues...Earlier, Trump said during talks with Zelenskyy and the European leaders that a potential ceasefire and who gets Ukrainian territory seized by Russia should be hashed out during a face-to-face meeting between the warring countries’ two leaders. “We’re going to let the president go over and talk to the president and we’ll see how that works out,” Trump said.
Trump hasn't got it through his head that some things are not negotiable - let alone fair.Land concessions should NOT be part of the conversation!
Europe can see it. Trump can't.
The developments come amid a significant measure of trepidation on the continent that Trump is pressing Ukraine to make concessions that will only further embolden Putin after the U.S. leader hosted the Russian president for an Alaska summit last week.
Putin is going to demand a victory - as he has to safe face back home to justify this war.
Zelensky is OF COURSE going to refuse.
Then Trump can walk out - "I tried" and play the victim to Zelenskyy actually demanding that the right thing happen.
I'm swinging back to this all being a ploy for Trump to pull funds to the whole thing.
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