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Trump Threatens Federal Takeover of Washington After Member of DOGE Is Assaulted

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The idea is to deter rather than arrest. As for the prosecution end of it, the USAO-DC in charge of that is fully in favor of Trump's order.
As I said, criminals figure out very quickly that the system is merely a revolving door.

Of course the USAO-DC is "fully in favor." Trump has made it very clear what happens to people in his branch what happens if they are not "fully in favor" of his orders.
 
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Epstein crimes have nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
The topic of this thread is a deflection. Not yours. Trump's.

If you want to debate about Epstein crimes then start a thread about that, rather than derailing other threads with it.
In my last six posts, I've mentioned Epstein once, in response to another's comments. In your last comment, you mentioned him twice.
 
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Sure. The definition of assault covers even a threat to batter a person. He was an idiot to waste a perfectly good sandwich on those guys, quite apart from the crime. The blowback over Bondi's jowl-quivering outrage over a tossed sandwich provided a good deal of amusement among rational Americans.
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I threw the sandwich, but I did not throw the kettle chips.
I threw the sandwich, but I did not throw the kettle chips.

All around in Washington

They're trying to track me down
They say they want to bring me in guilty
For the throwing of a BLT.

But I say..

I threw the sandwich, but I did not throw the kettle chips.

I threw the sandwich, but I did not throw the kettle chips.

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Yup, at least he provided a laugh or two while on his way to jail. I certainly hope he thinks it was worth it. Perhaps he should write a book. The Great Sandwhich Caper, The Death of America.

He'd make millions.
 
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It's not the first time a crooked politician tried to overturn our democracy. Hopefully, we'll get these guys like we got them each time before.
Yeah Tulsi Gabbard and Pam Bondi etc are working on it. I hope they get those involved from tge Obama administration too. And those from the Biden administration.
 
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It was a legal opinion based on the evidence presented in the charge, and good advice. Felonious assault generally requires intent to kill or inflict serious bodily injury, which they clearly cannot prove.
Yeah it could be an overcharge. I dont know what the law is in DC. It wouldn't be a felony in my state. But in DC? I dont know.
 
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I've mentioned before that when I lived in DC, it was drenched in crime. Someone was shot every single day, with an extra on weekends. I myself was mugged at gunpoint twice in 72 hours...and almost shot the second time.

People will point to DC's crime statistics going down over the last few years, but if you live there you might not feel that.

However....

...militarizing the streets doesn't solve the problem.

The prosecution and punishment side of the justice system has not changed under Trump’s emergency order.

Trump’s move is focused on policing: Who controls the D.C. police, whether the National Guard and federal agents supplement patrols, and how encampments and street crime are handled. It’s about who has authority to detain and make arrests, not about what happens after.

Trials still go through the DC courts. Judges and sentencing rules remain the same. Incarceration is still managed by the D.C. Department of Corrections (for local jails) and the Federal Bureau of Prisons (for long-term sentences). No new prisons or punishment systems are being created under this plan.

All of those systems are already strained. More policing will just strain them more.

If all happens is more policing on the street, there isn't actually “more justice,” just more strain and dysfunction.

The U.S. Attorney for D.C. already struggles with caseloads. They're already dropping many misdemeanors or lower felonies due to resource limits.

If arrests surge but prosecutors can’t expand capacity, more cases will either get dismissed outright, or never be charged. That's going to lead to a “revolving door” effect: more arrests, same number of prosecutions. And criminals will figure that out real quick.
Yeah that what im concerned with. Cleaning up the cime is great. But its a far larger process that just getting more enforcement on the front end. You need the rest of the system to work. Its not just the cops that have failed DC, its the whole system. I honestly dont see lasting change if the rest of the system cant ir don't do their jobs. Arresting people doesn't solve anything if they are just quickly in and out with little to no consequence.
 
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It's quoting Trump. He might be guilty of a lot of things, but he's not self-loathing.
Well the link I read talked about Bob Woodward’s book and a few other Trump haters.
 
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For that, we don't need the Epstein files. Here it is:
In an episode of the Howard Stern Show in April 2005, Mr Trump said: “Well I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed and ready, and everything else, and, you know, no men anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it, you know, I’m inspecting, I want to make sure everything is good.

“You know, the dresses. ‘Is everyone ok?’ You know they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?’ And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that”.


Most mental health people don't consider letching on young teens to be pedophilia; the term sometimes used is "hebephilia." As you probably know, young teens were the target group for Epstein and his friends.
Do you not see the hypocrisy here? Your party heroes promote men in locker rooms with girls changing clothes. Now you find this to be a problem? Give me a break. Hatred of Trump inspires many of your posts .
 
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Apparently society thinks that fraud to cover up an affair with a porn star is more punishable than an old pervert walking into a girl's dressing room. So Trump is a convicted felon for the former, but not the latter.
Hypocrisy!
 
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Apparently society thinks that fraud to cover up an affair with a porn star is more punishable than an old pervert walking into a girl's dressing room. So Trump is a convicted felon for the former, but not the latter.

Hypocrisy!
Yeah.
 
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Now back to the authoritarian surge in Washington which is either a distraction from Epstein, or an attempt to move to a police state, or both. you decide...
Trump is acting under his legal authority to do exactly what he is doing in DC . The real people who live there are grateful. It is many of the liberals screaming threat to democracy? Give me a break. It is unchallenged crime that is a threat to democracy.
 
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Apparently society thinks that fraud to cover up an affair with a porn star is more punishable than an old pervert walking into a girl's dressing room. So Trump is a convicted felon for the former, but not the latter.


Yeah.
Get out of the past and enjoy watching the most effective president in history run circles around his detractors. I bet you are getting dizzy watch him,
 
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Do you not see the hypocrisy here?
Trump bragged about it. He thinks it's fine. He's a sexual creeper, but at least he's not a hypocrite about it.

In an episode of the Howard Stern Show in April 2005, Mr Trump said: “Well I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed and ready, and everything else, and, you know, no men anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it, you know, I’m inspecting, I want to make sure everything is good.

“You know, the dresses. ‘Is everyone ok?’ You know they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?’ And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that”.


The hypocrites are those who claim to care about morals and support him anyway.

Your party heroes promote men in locker rooms with girls changing clothes.
Never heard libertarians doing that. You've confused me with MAGA. I'm not a Trump supporter.

Give me a break.
If you don't like it, why do you support someone who celebrates doing that kind of thing?
 
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As I said, criminals figure out very quickly that the system is merely a revolving door.

Of course the USAO-DC is "fully in favor." Trump has made it very clear what happens to people in his branch what happens if they are not "fully in favor" of his orders.
There's the revolving door and then there's the free-for-all. which is where there's no one to stop them. There's surveillance footage of a group of shoplifters in a DC store casually taking as much merch as they can carry, knowing they're not going to get arrested.

Which is probably way crime statistics are down. It's not that there's actually less crime. It's that there's been less law enforcement, so the crimes occur without any action being taken. As if they never happened.

The USAO-DC didn't have to take the job in the first place. The forced to be a sycophant to an autocrat claim is left-wing propaganda. Working towards smaller government a lot of extraneous departments have been cut leading to excess probationary staff being let go.
 
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The topic of this thread is a deflection. Not yours. Trump's.
So you're going to derail any thread not about Epstein because they're all deflections. Got it. You're a man on a mission. If you can get people talking about Epstein in numerous threads, that will supposedly achieve getting the files released.
 
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So you're going to derail any thread not about Epstein because they're all deflections.
You haven't been paying attention, then. Do some looking, and learn.

You're a man on a mission. If you can get people talking about Epstein in numerous threads,
Lots of people are talking about that. About 2/3s of Americans think Trump is hiding from it.

that will supposedly achieve getting the files released.
Trump seems to think that the damage he's taking is less than he'd take if he came clean. Maybe so. Does it matter?
 
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You haven't been paying attention, then. Do some looking, and learn.


Lots of people are talking about that. About 2/3s of Americans think Trump is hiding from it.


Trump seems to think that the damage he's taking is less than he'd take if he came clean. Maybe so. Does it matter?
It doesn't make any difference on CF, so there's no reason to keep bring it up here all the time.
 
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It doesn't make any difference on CF, so there's no reason to keep bring it up here all the time.
Some posters just can't help themselves from derailing threads. I think some thrive on doing so. Hatred of Trump is a driving force for so many on the left.
 
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The hypocrites are those who claim to care about morals and support him anyway.

If you don't like it, why do you support someone who celebrates doing that kind of thing?
The creator of the universe put Trump where he is to save this nation from internal destruction. That works for me. Scripture is filled with instances of God using imperfect men to accomplish His purposes. Argue your case with God that we should have Kamala right now to lead us into assured self destruction.
Never heard libertarians doing that. You've confused me with MAGA. I'm not a Trump supporter.
I haven’t confused you at all. I believe I did point out your incessant hatred of Trump.
 
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