Trump Threatens Federal Takeover of Washington After Member of DOGE Is Assaulted

The Barbarian · Friday at 9:05 PM

AMHERST, Mass. —
Nearly everyone in the country is aware of the Jeffrey Epstein case, and more than half of those who are believe that President Donald Trump is concealing information about the case, according to the results of a new national poll.

Americans question Trump’s transparency on Epstein, UMass poll finds

While Trump struggles with questions about the Epstein case, more than half of those polled believe he is not being transparent as president, and his approval rate is slipping.

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ozso said:
I get it,

More importantly, Americans get it. And MAGA is fracturing over it. Apparently, a lot of them draw the line at pedophilia.

rjs330 · Friday at 9:22 PM

The Barbarian said:
Yeah, it just shows that Trump's "emergency" has more to do with a desperate search for deflection from his Epstein problems.

Whats your evidence for that?

The Barbarian said:
t actually doesn't matter. In a weird way, this just keeps the Epstein problem front and center for him.

Well it does in your mind anyway.

The Barbarian said:
It's funny how you guys always end up saying terrible things about Trump and hoping someone else will take ownership. You misunderstand the nature of evil. Even evil people don't get up in the morning and consider how to so more evil that day.

I think they do.
And then there is the left and leftist media who wake up in the morning every day considering how they can accuse Trump of something evil every day.

rjs330 · Friday at 9:24 PM

The Barbarian said:
One more for you...

Roger Stone, a close Trump ally, met with a Russian man in May 2016 claiming to have “dirt” that could help Trump be elected.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-associate-roger-stone-reveals-new-contact-with-russian-national-during-2016-campaign/2018/06/17/4a8123c8-6fd0-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html

Still no charges.

BPPLEE · Friday at 9:33 PM

rjs330 said:
Still no charges.

Roger Stone left the Trump campaign in 2015. He said he quit, Trump said he fired him.
Whoever he met with in 2016 was on his own time

rjs330 · Friday at 9:39 PM

The Barbarian said:
More importantly, Americans get it. And MAGA is fracturing over it. Apparently, a lot of them draw the line at pedophilia.

I think 100% draw the line at pedophilia.
Its obvious people think the files ought to be released.

I'm all for it myself. Let's just get it out in the open, no matter who or what it destroys. After all thats what people want. All the left really cares about is hoping Trump is listed somehow as a pedophile. They dont care about anyone else. They dont care about anything else.

I think MAGA wants it released to prove he's not once and for all and to see Bill Clinton on there. We also want it to find out who he was probably blackmailing or if he was working for the CIA or something snagging up foreign leaders.

The Barbarian · Friday at 9:52 PM

More importantly, Americans get it. And MAGA is fracturing over it. Apparently, a lot of them draw the line at pedophilia.

rjs330 said:
I think 100% draw the line at pedophilia.

Apparently , not all of them. Only about 2/3 of Americans are unhappy that Trump isn't coming clean about what's in those files.

rjs330 said:
I'm all for it myself. Let's just get it out in the open, no matter who or what it destroys.

Sounds good to me. It's puzzling why Trump won't do it.

rjs330 said:
I think MAGA wants it released to prove he's not once and for all and to see Bill Clinton on there.

Bill Clinton, like Trump, was on the flight list to Epstein's island. So there is that.

rjs330 said:
We also want it to find out who he was probably blackmailing or if he was working for the CIA or something snagging up foreign leaders.

Yep. Might explain why Maxwell, after speaking with Trump's ex-lawyer, got moved to a better lock-up.

The Barbarian · Friday at 9:53 PM

rjs330 said:
Still no charges.

He was charged with lying about his collusion with Russian agents.

Supposedly, Stone left the Trump campaign in 2015, but Trump pardoned him, for reasons that seem obvious.

The Barbarian · Friday at 9:56 PM

rjs330 said:
I think they do.
And then there is the left and leftist media who wake up in the morning every day considering how they can accuse Trump of something evil every day.

One of the advantages of paranoia is the ability to read minds.

rjs330 · Friday at 11:16 PM

The Barbarian said:
Apparently , not all of them. Only about 2/3 of Americans are unhappy that Trump isn't coming clean about what's in those files.

That 3rd is still opposed to pedophilia. I bet the 3rd has a number if reasons not to be upset over the lack of release.

1. They believe rhere really is no list.
2. They believe the list wouldn't solve anything.
3. They are concerned that id there is a list it would be a national security issue.
All of which has NOTHING to do with not being opposed to pedophilia. You actually think a 3rd of Americans support pedophilia?

The Barbarian said:
Sounds good to me. It's puzzling why Trump won't do it.

You actually can't think of any reason besides the fact you think hes on it? None at all?

The Barbarian said:
Bill Clinton, like Trump, was on the flight list to Epstein's island. So there is that.

Yup. Does that prove they were pedophiles?

The Barbarian said:
Yep. Might explain why Maxwell, after speaking with Trump's ex-lawyer, got moved to a better lock-up.

Maybe.

rjs330 · Friday at 11:18 PM

The Barbarian said:
He was charged with lying about his collusion with Russian agents.

Supposedly, Stone left the Trump campaign in 2015, but Trump pardoned him, for reasons that seem obvious.

He left the campaign, didn't contact any Russian until later. He also was not charged with colluding with Russia to influence the election.

So you still have no one.

rjs330 · Friday at 11:20 PM

The Barbarian said:
One of the advantages of paranoia is the ability to read minds.

You mean like this statement?

"Yeah, it just shows that Trump's "emergency" has more to do with a desperate search for deflection from his Epstein problems."

Pommer · Saturday at 1:05 AM

rjs330 said:
That 3rd is still opposed to pedophilia. I bet the 3rd has a number if reasons not to be upset over the lack of release.

1. They believe rhere really is no list.

How’d we get to a “list”, our good friend said

The Barbarian said:
Apparently , not all of them. Only about 2/3 of Americans are unhappy that Trump isn't coming clean about what's in those files.

We know that there’s files, otherwise Ms Maxwell wouldn’t be in gaol.

rjs330 said:
2. They believe the list wouldn't solve anything.

Maybe not but taking a gander at what the files contain would be interesting to a significant portion of the ~~elecorate~~ public.

rjs330 said:
3. They are concerned that id there is a list it would be a national security issue.

We certain don’t want to jeopardize “national security”, but hiding behind “national security” might not be a wise way to deal with this issue.

rjs330 said:
All of which has NOTHING to do with not being opposed to pedophilia. You actually think a 3rd of Americans support pedophilia?

And suddenly we’ve turned the narrative back on people who are questioning why this 180° turnaround. Deftly done!

ozso · Saturday at 4:40 AM

Sorry to bring this thread back on topic.

Hentenza · Saturday at 7:08 AM

The Barbarian said:
AMHERST, Mass. —
Nearly everyone in the country is aware of the Jeffrey Epstein case, and more than half of those who are believe that President Donald Trump is concealing information about the case, according to the results of a new national poll.

Americans question Trump’s transparency on Epstein, UMass poll finds

While Trump struggles with questions about the Epstein case, more than half of those polled believe he is not being transparent as president, and his approval rate is slipping.

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More importantly, Americans get it. And MAGA is fracturing over it. Apparently, a lot of them draw the line at pedophilia.

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My brother you seem desperate. It amazes me that someone that pretends to be in search of cogent arguments is reducing those arguments to emotional political drama. You know well that even if there was a deep connection between Trump and Epstein the files will (and probably already are) be scrubbed clean, right. This is the same as we will never know the full extent of Biden’s dementia or who was actually behind the auto pen or whose cocaine was found in the White House.

Postvieww · Saturday at 7:12 AM

The Barbarian said:
Oh my. Treason. Treason would be something like collusion with our nation's enemies. You probably don't want to bring that up in this discussion, do you?

Of course I do . The fact that there was no “ collusion” with Russia by Trump has been debunked. The collusion was by those plotting against Trump which is now being exposed. Liberals have been on the wrong side of the facts for quite some time but now with the the whistle blowers, the documents released, the grand juries, the subpoenas and soon to be indictments you are going to find yourself on the wrong side of the facts. Scream Trump colluded all you wish, but it is a manufactured lie of the left. The hunted is now the hunter. Truth will prevail here and you my friend have place yourself on the wrong side of the facts.

DaisyDay · Saturday at 7:20 AM

rjs330 said:
Nope a good analogy and good point. Going from an extreme emergency to a significant emergency still means something needs to be done. The emergency isnt over just because it's not as bad as it once was. Beating your wife 10 times a day and dropping it to 6 times a day doesn't mean there's NOT a critical need to intervene.

But you new the point and still refused to address it.

That is why your point is so dull - the worse situation was NOT an emergency, but a considerably improved situation has been declared one.

Hurricanes are discrete, not on-going over time. In this case, a guy getting carjacked by three teenagers is being treated as a hurricane - bad analogy. Or a crime rate is being treated as several hurricanes - baffling analogy, at best.

Postvieww · Saturday at 7:25 AM

The Barbarian said:
Almost like the MAGA insurrection on Jan 6. Without the attacks on police officers, that is.

There was no insurrection!!!! A protest that was out of control yes but this insurrection lie of the left is being dismantled right before your eyes if you will just open them. Tell us who was offered and refused help from the the national guard, tell about the bombs placed at the DNC and RNC and why the story has largely been buried by the left, tell us about the FBI’s involvement on Jan 6. Tells the true facts on who actually died that day and why. I already had to correct you on that. You are still stuck in the liberal mud on this issue but will soon find the truth. The hunted is now the hunter. Enjoy.

DaisyDay · Saturday at 7:35 AM

Hentenza said:
My brother you seem desperate.

Personal insult.

Hentenza said:
It amazes me that someone that pretends to be in search of cogent arguments is reducing those arguments to emotional political drama

Accusation of lying.

Hentenza said:
. You know well that even if there was a deep connection between Trump and Epstein the files will (and probably already are) be scrubbed clean, right. This is the same as we will never know the full extent of Biden’s dementia or who was actually behind the auto pen or whose cocaine was found in the White House.

There's no question that there was a deep connection between Trump and Epstein - they partied together for a decade. Now apparently, this favoritism is extended to Maxwell who just got a deal that violated federal prison norms. "If" ^_^

Postvieww · Saturday at 7:37 AM

The Barbarian said:
He was actually sued by one underage girl for doing exactly that. He bragged about getting away with sexual assault. He was caught creeping into the dressing room of underage girls. He was a frequent flyer on Epstein's Lolita express. And you wonder why people think he's a pedophile?

Show us one of those. Got one as disgusting as Trump barging into a room of undressed kids?

Show me where I said that. Be honest with yourself, at least. I'm merely pointing out what the public has already noticed. It's very suspicious that he's refused to release evidence that could clear him. Assuming that it actually doesn't implicate him. I'm not the only one noticing:

Trump faces backlash as 69% believe Epstein details concealed

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-faces-backlash-69-believe-epstein-details-concealed-reutersipsos-poll-2025-07-17/

If he's hasn't got anything to hide, why is he hiding it?

See above. Those are facts. Try to find a way to accommodate them.

Maybe you should ask yourself why your liberal heros who are now concerned about releasing Epstein facts didn’t do so when they were in charge and had no interest in doing so!

Postvieww · Saturday at 7:43 AM

ozso said:

This video states too much common sense for many to grasp. We all know that Trumps lawful action in DC is just one more thing for many liberals to complain about. The fact that Trump woke up this morning is another opportunity for liberal complaint.

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