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‘What’s Not To Like About That?’: Former Capitol Police Chief Tells ‘Morning Joe’ Trump DC Crackdown Is On Point

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Local news interview with the D.C. Mayor and Chief of Police: (yes, they will use the additional Federal resources, but note the MPD needs to fill 700 positions. Rather then spending money on temporary Federal resources, invest in local, permenant policing.....

 
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Are you a person of color?
No, my husband is though, for what that's worth.
I am and I would sure appreciate you stop trotting us out for purely political purposes.

People of color are not disenfranchise. We have a voice. We have a place in society and many of us make positive influences in our world and in this nation on so many different levels.
That's true.
People of color aren’t poor or stupid or in need of your help so stop it. you’re not the great white Hope for us.
PoC are not monolithic - so very many are not poor or stupid or in need of society's help, BUT others really are stupid or poor or both, same as any other demographic. Furthermore, the poor, stupid and disadvantaged are more likely to be discriminated against when they are also PoC.
People of color are intelligent I thought provoking and have every bit of an ability to rise or fall just like you white people so please stop.
Some are very intelligent, brilliant even, but others very much not - again just like us white people. However, white people are more often given the benefit of doubt denied to others.
People of color are not your poster. Child, people of color are not your cause celeb, people of color don’t need your pity. How about showing some respect?
Pitiful people often do need and deserve pity as well as respect.
 
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Donald John Trump.

-- A2SG, some people still give him the benefit of the doubt, despite being proven guilty of fraud on numerous occasions....
1 out of 170000,000
 
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You asked for an example, I provided it.

-- A2SG, if you wanted 170000,000 examples, you should have specified....
Your non efficacious response is duly noted. Have a pleasant day
 
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Example please.
From Google AI:

Yes, numerous studies indicate that minorities, particularly Black and Hispanic individuals, are often punished more harshly than their white counterparts in the criminal justice system. This disparity exists across various stages, from police interactions to sentencing.

Key Findings:​

Disparities in Sentencing:
  • Studies consistently show that Black and Hispanic individuals receive longer sentences and are more likely to be incarcerated than white individuals, even when controlling for factors like criminal history and the severity of the offense, according to the United States Sentencing Commission.
Incarceration Rates:
  • One report found that Black males received sentences 13.4% longer, and Hispanic males received sentences 11.2% longer than White males. (link)
  • Black Americans are incarcerated at significantly higher rates than white Americans, with some states showing disparities of over 9 to 1, according to The Sentencing Project.
  • Hispanic females received sentences 27.8% longer than White females.
  • A 2021 report from The Sentencing Project indicated that Black Americans were incarcerated in state prisons at nearly five times the rate of whites. (link)
School Discipline:
  • Black students are disproportionately disciplined in schools, facing higher rates of suspension, expulsion, and referrals to law enforcement compared to white students,. This disparity extends to preschool, with Black students being more likely to face out-of-school suspension and expulsion.link
Police Interactions:
  • Studies show that Black individuals are more likely to be stopped, searched, and subjected to force by police than white individuals.
  • Pretrial Detention:
    Black and Hispanic individuals are more likely to be detained pretrial, which can increase their chances of receiving a harsher sentence.

Factors Contributing to Disparities:​

  • Implicit Bias: Researchers have found that implicit biases, unconscious attitudes and stereotypes, can influence decision-making throughout the justice system.
  • Systemic Racism: The cumulative effect of historical and ongoing biases within institutions can contribute to disparities in sentencing and other outcomes.
  • Socioeconomic Factors: Poverty, lack of access to resources, and other socioeconomic factors can disproportionately affect minority communities, potentially leading to increased involvement in the criminal justice system.
 
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From Google AI:
Yes, numerous studies indicate that minorities, particularly Black and Hispanic individuals, are often punished more harshly than their white counterparts in the criminal justice system. This disparity exists across various stages, from police interactions to sentencing.​

Key Findings:​


Disparities in Sentencing:
  • Studies consistently show that Black and Hispanic individuals receive longer sentences and are more likely to be incarcerated than white individuals, even when controlling for factors like criminal history and the severity of the offense, according to the United States Sentencing Commission.
Incarceration Rates:
  • One report found that Black males received sentences 13.4% longer, and Hispanic males received sentences 11.2% longer than White males. (link)
  • Black Americans are incarcerated at significantly higher rates than white Americans, with some states showing disparities of over 9 to 1, according to The Sentencing Project.
  • Hispanic females received sentences 27.8% longer than White females.
  • A 2021 report from The Sentencing Project indicated that Black Americans were incarcerated in state prisons at nearly five times the rate of whites. (link)
School Discipline:
  • Black students are disproportionately disciplined in schools, facing higher rates of suspension, expulsion, and referrals to law enforcement compared to white students,. This disparity extends to preschool, with Black students being more likely to face out-of-school suspension and expulsion.link
Police Interactions:
  • Studies show that Black individuals are more likely to be stopped, searched, and subjected to force by police than white individuals.
  • Pretrial Detention:
    Black and Hispanic individuals are more likely to be detained pretrial, which can increase their chances of receiving a harsher sentence.

Factors Contributing to Disparities:​


  • Implicit Bias: Researchers have found that implicit biases, unconscious attitudes and stereotypes, can influence decision-making throughout the justice system.
  • Systemic Racism: The cumulative effect of historical and ongoing biases within institutions can contribute to disparities in sentencing and other outcomes.
  • Socioeconomic Factors: Poverty, lack of access to resources, and other socioeconomic factors can disproportionately affect minority communities, potentially leading to increased involvement in the criminal justice system.
Thank you - a refreshing change - I'll read up.
 
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Do you know who is not complaining about this? The majority of low income and minority resident, who want more police control.
 
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Do you know who is not complaining about this? The majority of low income and minority resident, who want more police control.
You got a citation for that?

From what I've seen, those residents who live in the areas with the biggest crime problems (e.g. Ward 8) state that they haven't seen any federal officers or National Guard troops in their area, and worry that this is just performative.


Even Fox was only able to find two people to support the idea (and one of those only tangentially in the sense that she welcomed anything that made the city safer): Trump's plan to deploy National Guard in DC sparks backlash from residents—but some welcome it
 
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From what I've seen, those residents who live in the areas with the biggest crime problems (e.g. Ward 8) state that they haven't seen any federal officers or National Guard troops in their area, and worry that this is just performative.
Doesn't that mean they want them?
 
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Doesn't that mean they want them?
No. "We haven't seen them" is an observation, not an endorsement. Wanting to ramp up policing or increase enforcement does not mean that they think that sending in federal agents and the National Guard is the right way to do it.
 
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At the same level as your - start at 3:38 because the first 3 min is an advertisement.

Alright, so he found video clips of three DC residents who seem to think this was a good idea - the first video clip he used doesn't appear to be calling it good; just complaining about crime. I'm not sure how you extrapolate that to "the majority of low income and minority residents." And, since the youtuber isn't actually interviewing these people, just re-posting clips, it's hard to know the exact context of the quotes.

I'm not one of the people saying that DC didn't have a problem with crime. It's not as bad as Trump has portrayed it, but that doesn't mean that everything is calm and peaceful either. And I'm sure that putting federal agents and National Guard on the streets will have a chilling effect, especially in the short term. However, I see a couple issues moving forward:

1. Using federal agents and the military as beat cops is yet another step on the path towards authoritarianism that Trump and the Republican Party have been walking over the past seven months.

2. What is the plan for fixing the issues that have led to the current situation? I've not heard anything to that effect from the administration. Cracking down on crime using federal agents and the military only works as long as the federal agents and the military are there. The Home Rule Act only permits the president to take control of the DC police for 30 days before an act of Congress is required, but Trump is already asking for more time. Will this be an indefinite thing? Because I hope we can both agree that that would be bad - see point 1.
 
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Using federal agents and the military as beat cops is yet another step on the path towards authoritarianism that Trump and the Republican Party have been walking over the past seven months.
He is not using the national guard as beat cops. They are sent to specific areas where the violence is.

Everything you post past that is negated by that error

The only ones complaining either do not live there or live there in gated communities with private security.

The lowest income are on their own until now.
 
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He is not using the national guard as beat cops. They are sent to specific areas where the violence is.
Source? They're currently stationed at the National Mall and Union Station:


Seems like they're mostly out there as a show of force - aka "beat cops."
Everything you post past that is negated by that error
How so? Even if you disagree with my characterization, the federalization of a municipality's police force and the use of the military as law enforcement are authoritarian actions.
The only ones complaining either do not live there or live there in gated communities with private security.
The video I posted earlier disproves that.
 
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