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3 killed by strike at Gaza's only Catholic church; Israel launches probe, expresses 'deep sorrow'

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Once again, no Hamas, no rubble. All Hamas had to do was to return the hostages and deal a cease fire in good faith. They didn’t. The root cause for all this devastation and pain is Hamas.
As I have quoted here that is not what the Israeli leadership have said. It's their views that count not yours.
 
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As I have quoted here that is not what the Israeli leadership have said. It's their views that count not yours.
Which Israeli leadership? What did they say in context? I’m sure the Israeli leadership don’t blame Hamas, the folks that they are at war with, right?
 
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Still dodging the question unless you mean that the only sources you use are those you have cited in this thread. You could just list them. Why don't you?
I have posted sources in this thread that you have not addressed. All you have is a you tube video and your unlearned opinion. Why don’t you address what I post for once? This conversation with you has become quite boring.
 
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Which Israeli leadership? What did they say in context? I’m sure the Israeli leadership don’t blame Hamas, the folks that they are at war with, right?
Seems like you need to do some research as well! Do you not know how to do that? But if you can't be bothered to do that you could check out what the Israeli PM said about Amalek and explain why donkeys have to be wiped out as well. Of course you could just list the sources you use.
 
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Seems like you need to do some research as well! Do you not know how to do that? But if you can't be bothered to do that you could check out what the Israeli PM said about Amalek and explain why donkeys have to be wiped out as well. Of course you could just list the sources you use.
Nah. I’m fine. I come from academia so research is no problem for me but it is for you. Debate requires two people. You can find a video that shows one person disagreeing with Israel’s actions and I can find a video of one person that agrees with Israel’s actions. What kind of debate is that? The YouTube against YouTube debate? lol

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Nah. I’m fine. I come from academia so research is no problem for me but it is for you. Debate requires two people. You can find a video that shows one person disagreeing with Israel’s actions and I can find a video of one person that agrees with Israel’s actions. What kind of debate is that? The YouTube against YouTube debate? lol

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I think you'll find a lot of different people and organisations post on Youtube, including the IDF, whom you seem to rate highly - but for no good reason.
 
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I think you'll find a lot of different people and organisations post on Youtube, including the IDF, whom you seem to rate highly - but for no good reason.
I don’t rate the IDF highly. Please show me the post where I said that. I rate YouTube for factual analysis about the same level as Wikipedia. Neither is very reliable.
 
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I don’t rate the IDF highly. Please show me the post where I said that. I rate YouTube for factual analysis about the same level as Wikipedia. Neither is very reliable.
Well you've been following the IDF line of blaming Hamas for the destruction of Gaza which has been done by the IDF, not Hamas.
I come from academia as well, a top UK university (many would say the top one). You've quoted Associated Press but they too have a Youtube channel. Your blanket condemnation of Youtube, which has very many different contributors, is complete nonsense. The test is the factual accuracy. Norman Finkelstein has a masters and PhD from Princeton which I believe is regarded as a good university in the US. He has lectured in several places of higher education and written many books. But since your "background is academia" and you are putting yourself forward as such an expert on this matter, listen to the video and with your great and superior knowledge you can enlighten us all about any inaccuracies.

Who do you rate highly? Being so coy about that removes your credibility for attacking other sources.
 
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Well you've been following the IDF line of blaming Hamas for the destruction of Gaza which has been done by the IDF, not Hamas.
That would be a comprehension problem. My argument has always been that the root cause of this conflict and ultimately the destruction is Hamas not the IDF. This IS factual. Do you blame your country, the US, and allies for operation Meetinghouse?
I come from academia as well, a top UK university (many would say the top one). You've quoted Associated Press but they too have a Youtube channel. Your blanket condemnation of Youtube, which has very many different contributors, is complete nonsense. The test is the factual accuracy.
Then you should have an inkling on how to research and debate. A YouTube video is someone’s opinion which I am not debating. I am not wasting my time watching videos just because you can’t make a cohesive argument.
Norman Finkelstein has a masters and PhD from Princeton which I believe is regarded as a good university in the US. He has lectured in several places of higher education and written many books.
Good for him. I have a PhD from a good university also.
But since your "background is academia" and you are putting yourself forward as such an expert on this matter, listen to the video and with your great and superior knowledge you can enlighten us all about any inaccuracies.
I am debating you not a video. Once again, if you can‘t make an argument in your own words then you do not know the material.
Who do you rate highly? Being so coy about that removes your credibility for attacking other sources.
I read many sources to arrive at my interpretation and understanding. If you are from academia then you should know that only a couple of sources is just opinion. You don‘t add to the body of knowledge by using limited sources primarily when those sources are already interpretations of, not primary sources, but secondary and some times even from tertiary sources.
 
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That would be a comprehension problem. My argument has always been that the root cause of this conflict and ultimately the destruction is Hamas not the IDF. This IS factual.
Despite your claim of being from academia you clearly don't understand the difference between fact and opinion.
A YouTube video is someone’s opinion which I am not debating.
It is stupid to think a Youtube video cannot present facts
Good for him. I have a PhD from a good university also.
Still being coy aren't you. Which university would that be?
I read many sources to arrive at my interpretation and understanding.
Still being very coy about your sources. This removes your credibility. Goodbye.
 
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Despite your claim of being from academia you clearly don't understand the difference between fact and opinion.

It is stupid to think a Youtube video cannot present facts

Still being coy aren't you. Which university would that be?

Still being very coy about your sources. This removes your credibility. Goodbye.
Why can‘t you answer my whole post? It seems disingenuous that your reply to my post ignores my context.
 
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