Trump Threatens Federal Takeover of Washington After Member of DOGE Is Assaulted

Clare73 · Tuesday at 3:57 PM

Pommer said:
Freedom is messy.

Don't confuse lawlessness with freedom.

BCP1928 · Tuesday at 3:58 PM

Clare73 said:
Lawlessness is not freedom.

Freedom is slavery.

Clare73 · Tuesday at 4:01 PM

BCP1928 said:
Freedom is slavery.

Not in my dictionary. . .

That explains a lot.

Postvieww · Tuesday at 4:09 PM

7thKeeper said:
Not really, it tells something about the American electorate, though.

What does it about the electorate? Could it just be they were tired of being gaslit and lied to by the Democrat party elites?

BCP1928 · Tuesday at 4:14 PM

Postvieww said:
What does it about the electorate? Could it just be they were tired of being gaslit and lied to by the Democrat party elites?

Probably, and I don't blame them. We'll have to wait and see how soon they get tired of being gaslit and lied to by Republican party elites.

wing2000 · Tuesday at 4:15 PM

Postvieww said:
What does it about the electorate? Could it just be they were tired of being gaslit and lied to by the Democrat party elites?

This voter is tired of the "This is a national emergency" line....which is nothing more than a pretense to put the military in the streets.
-McArthy Partk in L.A.
-D.C.

Next?

Clare73 · Tuesday at 4:23 PM

7thKeeper said:
Not really, it tells something about the American electorate, though.

And?

If they are in accordance with the Constitution, who are you to disagree?

GoldenBoy89 · Tuesday at 4:34 PM

Clare73 said:
And?

If they are in accordance with the Constitution, who are you to disagree?

An American with a first amendment right.

joymercy · Tuesday at 4:36 PM

essentialsaltes said:
White House press secretary:
"Homeless individuals will be given the option to leave their encampment, to be taken to a homeless shelter, to be offered addiction or mental health services -- and if they refuse, they will be susceptible to fines or to jail time."

Thank you my friend. Useful information that I haven't discovered yet. I appreciate your time .

rjs330 · Tuesday at 7:20 PM

The Barbarian said:
But you can't support your claim? We all know why.

I did see post 141.

The Barbarian said:
The actual homicide rate for Washington DC is 19th for the United States. Not surprisingly, most of the higher cities are Red State cities. Oh, and homicide rates are a very good index of violent crime because it's extremely difficult to hide homicides in statistics.

I agree its not the best index of violent xrime because there are a lot more violent crimes that just homicide.

That being said

The homicide rate in 2024 was 27.3, according to the Center for Public Safety Initiatives at Rochester Institute of Technology. While a big drop from the 2023 spike, it still ranked fourth-worst in the country. If D.C. were a state, it would have the highest homicide rate of any state in the United States, and would be retaining that dubious title year after year.

No one is claiming crime is up. I'm not claiming that it not down. The point is it STILL not acceptable. Going down from astronomically high down to disturbingly grossly high isnt a win.

We have have allowed lawlessness to carry on for too long. And rhe fact that DC was trying to manipulate stats by not counting all violent crime is a testament to its failure to address the situation.

Even the police have spoken out about how bad it is.

I dont know if the plan will work or not. It probably will depend on numerous factors. At this point im not a fan of the use of the NG yet. Let's try and just fix it with proper LE and criminal justice measures first. Only bring in the NG if LE is overwhelmed.

rjs330 · Tuesday at 7:24 PM

essentialsaltes said:
White House press secretary:
"Homeless individuals will be given the option to leave their encampment, to be taken to a homeless shelter, to be offered addiction or mental health services -- and if they refuse, they will be susceptible to fines or to jail time."

This is what I have have supported in every city. Get these people off the street, into shelters and get them help.

ozso · Tuesday at 8:12 PM

Pommer said:
Freedom is messy.

There's no statute of freedom that enables lawlessness.

The Barbarian · Tuesday at 9:08 PM

rjs330 said:
The homicide rate in 2024 was 27.3, according to the Center for Public Safety Initiatives at Rochester Institute of Technology. While a big drop from the 2023 spike, it still ranked fourth-worst in the country.

Nope. It's not even in the top 15. And the homicide rate in D.C. has been falling for decades. Would you like me to show you again?

rjs330 said:
If D.C. were a state, it would have the highest homicide rate of any state in the United States, and would be retaining that dubious title year after year.

Pretty much any urban area made a state would have the highest homicide rate of any state in the United States. It's just that many U.S. cities have a higher homicide rate than Washington D.C.

America’s Murder Capitals: A 2025 Ranking of the Deadliest Cities

America's Murder Capitals: A 2025 Ranking of the Deadliest Cities

St. Louis has by far the highest murder rate in America and is considered the "murder capital of the US 2025" but there are cities that are not lagging far behind

freedomforallamericans.org

GoldenBoy89 · Tuesday at 9:43 PM

The Barbarian said:
Nope. It's not even in the top 15. And the homicide rate in D.C. has been falling for decades. Would you like me to show you again?

Pretty much any urban area made a state would have the highest homicide rate of any state in the United States. It's just that many U.S. cities have a higher homicide rate than Washington D.C.

America’s Murder Capitals: A 2025 Ranking of the Deadliest Cities

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America's Murder Capitals: A 2025 Ranking of the Deadliest Cities

St. Louis has by far the highest murder rate in America and is considered the "murder capital of the US 2025" but there are cities that are not lagging far behind

freedomforallamericans.org

More than half of this list are in red states and god help anyone even passing through Missouri.

The Barbarian · Tuesday at 9:59 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
More than half of this list are in red states and god help anyone even passing through Missouri.

I have relatives in the St. Louis area. There are safe places in the county, but there are some really dangerous areas. Much worse than D.C.

GoldenBoy89 · Tuesday at 10:23 PM

The Barbarian said:
I have relatives in the St. Louis area. There are safe places in the county, but there are some really dangerous areas. Much worse than D.C.

I’d like to see Trump try a federal takeover of one of these dangerous red state cities. For some reason he doesn’t seem to pick on them too much.

7thKeeper · Wednesday at 12:37 AM

Postvieww said:
What does it about the electorate? Could it just be they were tired of being gaslit and lied to by the Democrat party elites?

This post was actually a really good example of what it tells about them. You immediately went for a cheap, partisan attack that ignores the fact that Republicans do those exact same things. The American electorate in general seems to be more interested in the entertainment factor, sticking it to the other party, while ignoring any faults, sometimes exactly identical in their own party/candidate. I mean, this time they elected a literal felon who has cheated during each of his marriages, has committed sexual assault, and that's just a few things off the top of my mind. In no other western democracy would he have even made it to the ballots, his political career would have been dead. But not there, because... Well he's entertaining in a way and that's what appeals and everything bad about one's own preferred candidate is just a conspiracy by the other side to make them look bad.

Thank you for making my point, that was really kind of you.

Pommer · Wednesday at 1:01 AM

7thKeeper said:
Not really, it tells something about the American electorate, though.

Riding The Crazytown rollercoaster once takes no courage: riding it a second time does.
We’re a courageous people, and aren’t afraid of a bit o’ mayhem in our politics!

We’ll be okay, watch as we loop-de-loop!

Pommer · Wednesday at 1:02 AM

Clare73 said:
Don't confuse lawlessness with freedom.

Don’t confuse “order” with “obeying”.

Pommer · Wednesday at 1:06 AM

ozso said:
There's no statute of freedom that enables lawlessness.

It used to be that everything that wasn’t made “illegal“ by the rule-of-law, was assumed to be lawful.
Not having a place to live is not a crime.

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