Say it aint so
Well-Known Member
- Jun 19, 2020
- 3,240
- 2,781
- 27
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Deist
- Marital Status
- Single
Upvote
0
-
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
Oklahoma State Superintendent Mandates All Public Schools to Teach Bible
- Thread starter DaisyDay
- Start date
essentialsaltes
Fact-Based Lifeform
- Oct 17, 2011
- 42,338
- 45,445
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Legal Union (Other)
This month, Oklahoma’s Department of Education announced an innovative approach to screening aspiring teachers in the state: Any applicants from “woke” states would need to first pass an ideology test created by the right-wing group PragerU.
Under this plan, teachers from states with “progressive education policies” [second link mentions only CA and NY as being subject to the new ideology test] would be tested on the U.S. Constitution, American exceptionalism, and “the fundamental biological differences between boys and girls.” The screening is guaranteed to assess teachers on a deeply MAGA-inflected understanding of U.S. history, government, and society: PragerU, which has a stated mission of countering leftism in education, is known for its white nationalist–adjacent content for schoolchildren.
Upvote
0
Hans Blaster
On August Recess
- Mar 11, 2017
- 21,905
- 16,508
- 55
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Private
- Politics
- US-Democrat
It's like they can't even read their own constitution:
SECTION II-5. Public money or property - Use for sectarian purposes.
No public money or property shall ever be appropriated, applied,
donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use, benefit, or
support of any sect, church, denomination, or system of religion, or
for the use, benefit, or support of any priest, preacher, minister,
or other religious teacher or dignitary, or sectarian institution as
such.
Upvote
0
essentialsaltes
Fact-Based Lifeform
- Oct 17, 2011
- 42,338
- 45,445
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Legal Union (Other)
A Ryan Walters two-fer
“They like to take into account how much money we put into education. That’s never been an evaluation of mine of what makes a good education system, it’s outcomes,” said Supt. Walters.
The rankings from WalletHub showed that Oklahoma ranked the lowest in several categories, including teacher-per-pupil, test scores, dropout rates, and more.
[Test scores and dropout rates are examples of outcomes. And teacher ratios are certainly a consequence of what OK is doing or not doing.]
Multiple Oklahoma lawmakers and a board member are responding to allegations involving State Superintendent Ryan Walters following Thursday’s State Board of Education meeting.
Two publications, including NonDoc, report that board members, Becky Carson and Ryan Deatherage, say that a video featuring naked women was displayed on a TV in Walters’ office during the meeting. Carson and Deatherage said they were the only ones seated in a position where they could see the screen.
On Saturday, a fellow board member released a statement sharing what he experienced during the executive session.
Chris Van Denhende, State Board of Education member, responded, saying,
Board members voice concern with new ranking of 50th in education
“When you look at education rankings, a lot of these are ridiculous,” said Supt. Walters, when asked about it after Thursday’s board meeting.“They like to take into account how much money we put into education. That’s never been an evaluation of mine of what makes a good education system, it’s outcomes,” said Supt. Walters.
The rankings from WalletHub showed that Oklahoma ranked the lowest in several categories, including teacher-per-pupil, test scores, dropout rates, and more.
[Test scores and dropout rates are examples of outcomes. And teacher ratios are certainly a consequence of what OK is doing or not doing.]
REPORTS ALLEGE RYAN WALTERS DISPLAYED NUDE WOMEN ON OFFICE TV. BOARD MEMBER, LAWMAKERS REACT
Oklahoma lawmakers respond to allegations that Ryan Walters displayed nude women on his office TV during executive session.Multiple Oklahoma lawmakers and a board member are responding to allegations involving State Superintendent Ryan Walters following Thursday’s State Board of Education meeting.
Two publications, including NonDoc, report that board members, Becky Carson and Ryan Deatherage, say that a video featuring naked women was displayed on a TV in Walters’ office during the meeting. Carson and Deatherage said they were the only ones seated in a position where they could see the screen.
On Saturday, a fellow board member released a statement sharing what he experienced during the executive session.
Chris Van Denhende, State Board of Education member, responded, saying,
Upvote
0
So what? Aren't we told iver and over again that nudity is okay? That we shouldn't be shocked or offended by a nude person? I believe progressives often say that nudity in pictures or on tv in school is perfectly appropriate for older teens particularly. We are also told that men seeing women naked in locker rooms is just fine and the women shouldnt be offended in seeing a naked male.
Did you post this to challenge those who were concerned about the nudity? Or to challenge the fact there was nudity?
Upvote
0
- Jan 7, 2003
- 41,908
- 19,900
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Female
- Faith
- Unitarian
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Others
There is a time and place. The superintendent had pornography playing on his TV during a work meeting within view of some of the meeting attendees. This was inappropriate.
Then there is the superintendent's raging hypocrisy.
Upvote
0
essentialsaltes
Fact-Based Lifeform
- Oct 17, 2011
- 42,338
- 45,445
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Legal Union (Other)
In a professional work setting? I don't think so.
But regardless of what 'we have been told' [in the passive voice], we know what Ryan Walters himself tells us about nude pictures in school setting.
Ryan Walters’ war on pornography has gone too far by weaponizing Oklahoma school accreditation
Upvote
0
Ah.. that makes sense. And if its true he does deserve to be made fun of. He also deserves to be fired in my opinion. If indeed he was watching porn or some such on government equipment he should be let go. I'm sure there are policies against such things.
Upvote
0
essentialsaltes
Fact-Based Lifeform
- Oct 17, 2011
- 42,338
- 45,445
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Legal Union (Other)
Fire the statisticians!
Expunge the data!
Place foxes in charge of henhouses!
'Reckless' OK schools chief promised 'serious changes' — and this might be the biggest yet
OKLAHOMA CITY — In a major departure from decades of state and federal policy, Oklahoma’s top education official said Friday his administration doesn’t plan to administer statewide reading and math tests this school year.Instead, state Superintendent Ryan Walters suggested Oklahoma should collect data from benchmark assessments that individual school districts select and purchase from private vendors.
The plan requires permission from the U.S. Department of [WW]Ed, and Walters said he expects a “very, very quick” approval from the Trumpadministration.
For several years, Oklahoma’s state tests have found a majority of students performing below their grade level. This was the case last year even after the state lowered the standard for students to meet grade-level targets in reading and math.
Upvote
0
SimplyMe
Senior Veteran
- Jul 19, 2003
- 10,639
- 10,389
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
This reminds me of growing up in Oklahoma. I was "blessed" (actually, my parents made sure of it before we moved there) to live in a community with excellent schools. The town I grew up in was headquarters to a major oil company, so the executives and scientists working at the oil company ensured the schools were very good and well funded.
So, when I took my ACT to get into college, I remember it being interesting, how I did as a percentage compared locally, statewide, and nationally. My local percentages were the lowest -- they were good schools and so the percentage showed that there were other very strong students with great scores. The national scores were next, they were about three percentage points higher than the local scores, showing that the students in my area, overall, scored well above the national average. However, the local Oklahoma percentages were by far the highest -- something close to 10 percentage points higher than the national average. The Oklahoma average scores were just that bad, even with my town adding scores that were higher than the national average. What's worse, at that point, Oklahoma had about the 42nd best schools in the nation, compared to the 50th best now; so they've gotten worse in the decades since I was in school.
Upvote
0
Hans Blaster
On August Recess
- Mar 11, 2017
- 21,905
- 16,508
- 55
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Private
- Politics
- US-Democrat
I'm sure both Ryan Walters and Mississippi rejoiced as Walters had driven Oklahoma education straight to the bottom and Mississippi wasn't last anymore (and with zero new expenditures).
Upvote
0
- Jan 7, 2003
- 41,908
- 19,900
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Female
- Faith
- Unitarian
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Others
Turns out the nekkid women were from a Jackie Chan movie Walters had on his TV. So no porn (just an R-rated movie) and the representatives were not making up lies.This does lead to the question of why Walters was streaming an action movie (with nekkid women) in his office during working hours. The investigation continues....
Upvote
0
- Feb 10, 2013
- 35,524
- 20,534
- 29
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Celibate
- Politics
- US-Republican
Upvote
0
Similar threads
