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Trump’s Domestic Use of Military Set to Get Worse, Leaked DHS/DoD Memo Shows: LA "hasn't been perfect" but indicates what's coming "for years to come"

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Eisenhower was protecting the civil rights of people of color.
Trump's military foray seems an awful lot like ethnic cleansing.
Being in a country illegally is not an ethnicity.

Dear AI, does Mexico deport people in the country illegally?

Yes, Mexico does deport people who are in the country illegally. This includes both foreign nationals and Mexican citizens who are found to be residing in the country without proper authorization.

Is there a nation that does not deport people who are in the country illegally?

No, there isn't a nation that does not deport people who are in the country illegally.
 
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The National Gard has been deployed on US soil plenty of times. The big whopping deal in this case is that the President took the initiative because the governor wouldn't. It's just the National Guard, not Gestapo Nazi storm troopers et al. The hyperbole being cranked out is most certainly conspiracy grade material.

Deploying US Marines domestically is equivalent Gestapo Nazi Strom troopers, but you do not want to making that assumption because it undermine the justification of the administration's decision.
 
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Deploying US Marines domestically is equivalent Gestapo Nazi Strom troopers, but you do not want to making that assumption because it undermine the justification of the administration's decision.
Sorry but I don't see the US military as Nazis. I think it's reprehensible to portray them as such. Makes me wonder if the left will start attacking veterans.
 
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Sorry but I don't see the US military as Nazis. I think it's reprehensible to portray them as such. Makes me wonder if the left will start attacking veterans.

Please read others' posts carefully. I did not call US Marines Nazis; I said that deploying them domestically is comparable to the actions of Nazi Gestapo storm troopers. If you can't distinguish between the two, meaningful debate is unlikely due to a lack of understanding.
 
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Please read others' posts carefully. I did not call US Marines Nazis; I said that deploying them domestically is If you can't distinguish between the two, meaningful debate is unlikely due to a lack of understanding.
There's not much wiggle room in "comparable to the actions of Nazi Gestapo storm troopers". Added to that is the "masked men kidnapping innocent people" etc. Members of law enforcement and the military are clearly being portraited as evil sinister monsters out to do great harm to the public.

This kind of way over the top rhetoric is one of the factors sinking the DNC and making liberalism less appealing. And yet they keep going at it hammer and tongs.
 
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There's not much wiggle room in "comparable to the actions of Nazi Gestapo storm troopers". Added to that is the "masked men kidnapping innocent people" etc. Members of law enforcement and the military are clearly being portraited as evil sinister monsters out to do great harm to the public.

This kind of way over the top rhetoric is one of the factors sinking the DNC and making liberalism less appealing. And yet they keep going at it hammer and tongs.

There is a distinction between calling U.S. Marines Nazis and characterizing certain actions, like deploying them on U.S. soil, as similar to actions taken by the Nazis.

It seems that you may not have a complete understanding of this complex topic, or you tend to prioritize asserting your own perspective over considering the validity of others' opinions.

Either way, I won’t waste my time on this. have a blessed day.
 
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There's not much wiggle room in "comparable to the actions of Nazi Gestapo storm troopers". Added to that is the "masked men kidnapping innocent people" etc. Members of law enforcement and the military are clearly being portraited as evil sinister monsters out to do great harm to the public.

This kind of way over the top rhetoric is one of the factors sinking the DNC and making liberalism less appealing. And yet they keep going at it hammer and tongs.
No, they are being portrayed as merely actors in a poorly scripted theatrical performance.
 
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There is a distinction between calling U.S. Marines Nazis and characterizing certain actions, like deploying them on U.S. soil, as similar to actions taken by the Nazis.
That would fall on who ordered the deployment, not those being deployed. The action of deployment and the actions they themselves took are completely separate. They themselves in no way acted like Nazis. They weren't lining people up and executing them etc.
It seems that you may not have a complete understanding of this complex topic, or you tend to prioritize asserting your own perspective over considering the validity of others' opinions.
There's not much validity found in hyperbole, sensationalism and especially the vilification of those serving our country.
 
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If only that was the case.
How else would you explain it? Take the case we were discussing recently in the "news" forum. about the Episcopal Priest''s daughter. You claimed there was no problem because student visas have been cancelled and students deported for years. In how many of those cases have the visas been cancelled without telling the student so they could be arrested for a criminal overstay instead of just being told to go home? In the particular case of the Korean woman why was that case selected? A student's visa was alleged to have lapsed but she didn't find out about it until she went in to the office to apply for a different visa. ICE was waiting outside so she could be publically taken off the street by masked men in swat gear and sent to a notorious detention center in Louisiana. Was it a coincidence that her mother was Priest of a church whose clergy Trump has denounced as blasphemous and perverted? The Paola Clouatre case is telling as well. The wife of a marine vet subject to a deportation order she didn't know about issued years before because of a paperwork mistake her mother made. OK, she was at a hearing trying to deal with the situation, the immigration judge was prepared to give her a green card but before he could do that here come the ICE agents who took her nursing baby away from her and hauled her off to a detention center, initially holding her incommunicado. Why make a public show of that? Was it so that the Marines working for ICE on the streets of LA would not be too scrupulous about the Posse Comitatus act? And the weed farm? They actually caught some real criminals there. They had already set up to do another farm in the area but Noem called it off because the corporation that owned it didn't like the idea. But a weed farm? One whose owner made campaign contributions to Newsome? Ooo, what a show. And the owner of the farm and the labor contractors slide anyway. The workers get deported, even those who have committed crimes while in this country, handed back to the traffickers who brought them here, including the children who were working there.
 
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If LA has undocumented people, offer to train them to fight the fires gearing up again in return for a green card.
We would get the self-selected best and bravest as they served our country.
 
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Looks like DC might be the next location. Certainly the legal situation there is a little different, being in the District.

Note this is not in response to any unrest or rioting, but in order to fight 'crime', which has actually fallen to historic lows.

Trump promises Monday ‘press conference’ at White House will ‘essentially stop violent crime in Washington, DC’

“On Monday a Press Conference will be held at the White House which will, essentially, stop violent crime in Washington, D.C.” said Trump. “It has become one of the most dangerous cities anywhere in the World. It will soon be one of the safest!!!”

This comes after a Thursday announcement from the White House that it will utilize federal law enforcement on the streets of Washington. Trump said the ramp-up of security would last for seven days, “with the option to extend as needed.” On Wednesday, Trump threatened to take charge of the city’s police force following an attempted hijacking in which an administration staffer was injured.

This week, he told reporters that he may attempt to repeal Washington’s limited “home rule” and that he’s considering “bringing in the National Guard, maybe very quickly.”

Between 2023 and 2024, rates of violent crime dropped 35 percent in Washington, the lowest rates in more than three decades, according to the Department of Justice. This year, violent crime has continued to decrease, down 26 percent year-over-year, according to data released on August 8 by the Metropolitan Police Department.
 
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The scariest thing. He might be in charge of the DC police.
In the case of the 25th amendment or a 2028 loss he could start his second insurrection and force the DC police to stand down.
A convicted felon 34 times over, indicted for insurrection with so much conclusive truth he wants to indict the American hero who investigated it.
 
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"The plan calls for 600 troops to be on standby at all times so they can deploy in as little as one hour, the documents say. They would be split into two groups of 300 and stationed at military bases in Alabama and Arizona, with purview of regions east and west of the Mississippi River, respectively."

Note: No decision has been made on whether to move forward with the plan or propose funding by Congress....(of course, Trump could simply re-allocate pentagon funds as he has done in the past).
 
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There's not much wiggle room in "comparable to the actions of Nazi Gestapo storm troopers". Added to that is the "masked men kidnapping innocent people" etc. Members of law enforcement and the military are clearly being portraited as evil sinister monsters out to do great harm to the public.

This kind of way over the top rhetoric is one of the factors sinking the DNC and making liberalism less appealing. And yet they keep going at it hammer and tongs.
No, they are just being used as tools by those out to do great harm to the country.
 
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