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3 killed by strike at Gaza's only Catholic church; Israel launches probe, expresses 'deep sorrow'

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It's not a "moral superiority" to believe that telling the truth matters: that's basic Christian morality. You made a false statement in post #29 which ought to be corrected.
And me changing that means you will change all the misinformation you’ve posted along the way, much of which I’ve pointed out to you?
 
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I disagree.
He has written the words that he does not support Hamas, but his general postings say otherwise. When he will not say, or even agree with someone else’s statement that Hamas could end this as easily as they started it, but instead lays all the blame on Israel, that is the same as support. Or at least Hamas would take it that way.
 
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He has written the words that he does not support Hamas, but his general postings say otherwise. When he will not say, or even agree with someone else’s statement that Hamas could end this as easily as they started it, but instead lays all the blame on Israel, that is the same as support. Or at least Hamas would take it that way.
I think you accused me of siding with Hamas or something too.
 
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I think you accused me of siding with Hamas or something too.
I didn’t accuse you of anything. I responded to your post where you said that you used to believe Israel was the good guys but now you believe they are just as bad as the terrorists, and I demonstrated to you the difference between how Hamas works compared to how Israel responds. Then you responded to me that they are both in the wrong, to which I responded with how Israel has supported the people of Gaza for the almost 20 years since Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip since Hamas refused to. YOU then suggested Israel should just stop fighting and let Hamas fight on alone (like that is an answer to being invaded and attacked) and I posted a video of Hamas’s claims that their whole goal in attacking incessantly since they formed (in 1987) was to wipe Israel and all Jews off the face of the earth. Which you seem not to know, which validated the premise that most people don’t actually know what Hamas’s endgame is.

That was the sum total of my interaction with you. Hardly an attack. You are free to go back and read the interaction so you don’t have to make false accusations.
 
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It shows what Hamas has done to Gaza. All Hamas had to do was release the hostages and negotiate in good faith for a cease fire. But to you Hamas can do no wrong even though they ARE the terrorists.
It is Israel that has dropped the bombs on Gaza.
 
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He has written the words that he does not support Hamas, but his general postings say otherwise. When he will not say, or even agree with someone else’s statement that Hamas could end this as easily as they started it, but instead lays all the blame on Israel, that is the same as support. Or at least Hamas would take it that way.
Because Israeli political leaders have vowed to destroy Hamas whatever they do.
 
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I have done. As part of the Oct 7 attacks Hamas attacked a military base in which there were IDF soldiers. Hamas knew this beforehand.
And? Hamas killed 379 soldiers and 796 civilians of which 36 were children.
 
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It is Israel that has dropped the bombs on Gaza.
In response to Hamas initial aggression. All Hamas had to do was to release the hostages and negotiate in good faith for a cease fire. Did not happen. No Hamas, no bombing.
 
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Because Israeli political leaders have vowed to destroy Hamas whatever they do.
And Hamas vowed to destroy Israel since their creation in 1987. They destroyed whatever advances the PLO and Israel had gained through the Oslo Accords. They have been attacking Israel with rockets and other ordinance since they took over the government of Gaza in 2007. Hamas is a pawn of Iran and carry the same terrorist rhetoric about the destruction of Israel and the US. You are defending a terrorist organization that could not care less about the Palestinian people as evidenced by their past and present actions.
 
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It is Israel that has dropped the bombs on Gaza.
What part of ….. If Hamas hadn’t attacked Israel for the umpteenth time, If Hamas hadn’t taken hostages and beaten and starved them to death, and If Hamas had released the hostages (dead and alive) this would never have happened, don’t you understand? The blame is SOLELY on Hamas.
 
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Because Israeli political leaders have vowed to destroy Hamas whatever they do.
And they deserve to be destroyed in the face of their extermination goals (and actions) against Israel.
 
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In response to Hamas initial aggression. All Hamas had to do was to release the hostages and negotiate in good faith for a cease fire. Did not happen. No Hamas, no bombing.
Israel has killed far more Palestinians than vice versa since 1948.
 
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And Hamas vowed to destroy Israel since their creation in 1987. They destroyed whatever advances the PLO and Israel had gained through the Oslo Accords. They have been attacking Israel with rockets and other ordinance since they took over the government of Gaza in 2007. Hamas is a pawn of Iran and carry the same terrorist rhetoric about the destruction of Israel and the US. You are defending a terrorist organization that could not care less about the Palestinian people as evidenced by their past and present actions.
It is Israel that has destroyed Gaza. Compare pictures of Gaza now with Tel Aviv now. Criticism of Israel is not support for Hamas. It is dishonest and defamatory to say so.
 
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