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Ghislaine Maxwell’s move to ‘country club’ prison smacks of special treatment, experts say

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It's just strange that she waited 30 years to make a complaint...
And in passing, I know one of the many women who have said that they have been assaulted by Trump. We've been forum/email buddies for years (no, I won't be giving her name). I didn't ask why she didn't make a complaint, but in one conversation she indicated that going up against a man with a boatload of money and influential friends and trying to prove something that happened with no witnesses is not something to be taken lightly. She actually said that she was scared to do it.

And many women don't report assaults at all. From here: https://www.aihw.gov.au/family-dome...omes/police/sexual-assault-reported-to-police:

'8.9% of all sexual assaults reported in 2023 occurred 20 or more years ago...'
 
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The ones who were given all the details in the case over a few days. Both from the prosecution and from Trump's defence. That's how the law works.

Notwithstanding that we all know Trump and the truth are very rarely seen in the same room together.
Well that's true but I find Carroll's account far fetched.
I didn't sit on a jury and hear all the evidence though
 
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And in passing, I know one of the many women who have said that they have been assaulted by Trump. We've been forum/email buddies for years (no, I won't be giving her name). I didn't ask why she didn't make a complaint, but in one conversation she indicated that going up against a man with a boatload of money and influential friends and trying to prove something that happened with no witnesses is not something to be taken lightly. She actually said that she was scared to do it.

And many women don't report assaults at all. From here: https://www.aihw.gov.au/family-dome...omes/police/sexual-assault-reported-to-police:

'8.9% of all sexual assaults reported in 2023 occurred 20 or more years ago...'
I won't take her word lightly, I can understand being scared to go up against someone with wealth and power and for others the embarrassment, shame and fear may keep them from coming forward.
I still have some doubts about Carroll's story though
 
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I believe if there was anything truly damaging to Trump in the files it would have been leaked by now.

...Trump's behavior and actions suggest otherwise.

Why would he need Maxwell's "cooperation" if there's nothing in the files?
 
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I believe if there was anything truly damaging to Trump in the files it would have been leaked by now.
See but now you are presuming trumps innocence based on the "inaction" of his critics.

I mean do you think Trump is FAMOUS for making everyone he speaks with sign ndas because it's a past time of his?

And that is for tiny stuff.
 
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You don't get to dictate reality.


Denials like this do not flatter Trump supporters.
I am stating facts. He is not a rapist.
 
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See but now you are presuming trumps innocence based on the "inaction" of his critics.

I mean do you think Trump is FAMOUS for making everyone he speaks with sign ndas because it's a past time of his?

And that is for tiny stuff.
He can't even have a secret meeting without it getting leaked,
come on,
I wouldn't pin all my hopes on there being bombshells in the Epstein files
 
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He can't even have a secret meeting without it getting leaked,
come on,
I wouldn't pin all my hopes on there being bombshells in the Epstein files
And you think trumpnis fighting so hard because why?
 
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I am stating facts. He is not a rapist.
Then just a sexual assaulter?

The judge said what he did. At a minimum, Trump is a sexual assaulter. He even confessed it on an Entertainment Tonight episode.

So Trump, with a history of sexual assault, let his DOJ work a move to a minimum security prison for a sex trafficker.

hmmm
 
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Perhaps you will find this report to be informative.
You do realize that the lawyer who went to Maxwell was Trump's personal lawyer during the E. Jean Carroll trial, and Maxwell is getting rewarded for protecting Trump with that move to a minimum security prison?

And Bondi had hundreds of FBI agents combing the Epstein files for Trump's name. It is probably blacked out by now, don't you think?
 
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I am stating facts. He is not a rapist.
The facts are is the he was adjudged, in a court of law by his peers, when all opportunities were given for all involved parties to present their case, to have sexually assaulted a woman by digitally penetrating her.

Again, those are the facts. You might disagree with them but to deny them is literally to deny reality.

Are your constant claims that he is not a rapist based on the state of NY legal definition of rape? I find it difficult to understand that you could possibly use that to excuse what he did. Please tell me that's not what you are doing.
 
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You do realize that the lawyer who went to Maxwell was Trump's personal lawyer during the E. Jean Carroll trial, and Maxwell is getting rewarded for protecting Trump with that move to a minimum security prison?

And Bondi had hundreds of FBI agents combing the Epstein files for Trump's name. It is probably blacked out by now, don't you think?
Trump's name was never ever in the Epstein files.
 
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The facts are is the he was adjudged, in a court of law by his peers, when all opportunities were given for all involved parties to present their case, to have sexually assaulted a woman by digitally penetrating her.

Again, those are the facts. You might disagree with them but to deny them is literally to deny reality.

Are your constant claims that he is not a rapist based on the state of NY legal definition of rape? I find it difficult to understand that you could possibly use that to excuse what he did. Please tell me that's not what you are doing.
It was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal court. He is not a rapist.
 
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It was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal court. He is not a rapist.
Is your argument that as he wasn't convicted in a criminal case (statute of limitations) but found to have assaulted her in a civil one, therefore it didn't actually happen?

Are you being serious?
 
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Trump's name was never ever in the Epstein files.
Apparently you need to believe that.


Epstein told Michael Wolff, who was interviewing him for a book like the Fire and Fury book he did on Trump, that he was Trump's 'closest friend for 10 years'. I'd link to the podcast where Wolff says that but can't trust the language in it as he quotes both Trump and Epstein and their language is bad.
 
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It was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal court. He is not a rapist.
The judge said what he did.

Move on.

The topic is about Ghislane Maxwell and why she is in a minimum security prison when no other sex offender is allowed to be in one.
 
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