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German proposal for ten bishops to defy Rome and ordain 50 married men as priests

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The declining number of priests poses an acute threat to pastoral care. Creative solutions are now needed from the bishops and in Rome, demands theologian Ulrich Lüke.




The Luther of Reformation 2.0


With ever-new euphemistic magic words – currently the slogan is "expand pastoral spaces" – the reduction of parishes and the closure of churches, primarily oriented towards the declining number of priests, is being hyped up as a concept. Eucharist-free zones are the result, even though, according to the Council, the Eucharist is the "source and summit of communion." The Diocese of Aachen, for example, is to be reduced to eight parishes.

What would happen if ten German bishops, in their pastoral duty to care for the Eucharist, were to ordain five married, theologically well-trained men each to the priesthood on the Feast of St. Peter and St. Paul in 2027? According to canon law, the candidate for ordination must be a "vir baptizatus," a baptized man. These 50 married priests would then be ordained "validly, but not legally." Would Rome dare to remove the ten bishops and the 50 married priests from their office? And on what theological grounds would it be, if married Protestant pastors who have converted to Catholicism were ordained as Catholic priests? This Church is blocking itself if it lacks the courage to embrace different speeds of development.

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The declining number of priests poses an acute threat to pastoral care. Creative solutions are now needed from the bishops and in Rome, demands theologian Ulrich Lüke.




The Luther of Reformation 2.0


With ever-new euphemistic magic words – currently the slogan is "expand pastoral spaces" – the reduction of parishes and the closure of churches, primarily oriented towards the declining number of priests, is being hyped up as a concept. Eucharist-free zones are the result, even though, according to the Council, the Eucharist is the "source and summit of communion." The Diocese of Aachen, for example, is to be reduced to eight parishes.

What would happen if ten German bishops, in their pastoral duty to care for the Eucharist, were to ordain five married, theologically well-trained men each to the priesthood on the Feast of St. Peter and St. Paul in 2027? According to canon law, the candidate for ordination must be a "vir baptizatus," a baptized man. These 50 married priests would then be ordained "validly, but not legally." Would Rome dare to remove the ten bishops and the 50 married priests from their office? And on what theological grounds would it be, if married Protestant pastors who have converted to Catholicism were ordained as Catholic priests? This Church is blocking itself if it lacks the courage to embrace different speeds of development.

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I think I’d be ok with it.
 
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With ever-new euphemistic magic words – currently the slogan is "expand pastoral spaces" – the reduction of parishes and the closure of churches, primarily oriented towards the declining number of priests
Is science the problem ?

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The declining number of priests poses an acute threat to pastoral care. Creative solutions are now needed from the bishops and in Rome, demands theologian Ulrich Lüke.
Fr. Longenecker is a married Catholic priest who married, was ordained an Episcopalian, then became Catholic, and then was ordained a Catholic priest serving a diocese. My local Ordinariate priest married, went to seminary, became a Catholic priest, and serves the Ordinariate. Eastern Rite Catholics are often served by married priests. It happens now. It's not a particularly bad thing. If it could diminish the Lavender Mafia it would be a good thing.
 
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Is science the problem ?
No. Trying ever so hard to be relevant and popular is the problem, at least in Germany. The harder they try, the less successful they are. So they redouble their efforts. If only they prayed the liturgy and fed the poor they would do OK.
 
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Fr. Longenecker is a married Catholic priest who married, was ordained an Episcopalian, then became Catholic, and then was ordained a Catholic priest serving a diocese. My local Ordinariate priest married, went to seminary, became a Catholic priest, and serves the Ordinariate. Eastern Rite Catholics are often served by married priests. It happens now. It's not a particularly bad thing. If it could diminish the Lavender Mafia it would be a good thing.
Yeah, I think it’s ok under certain circumstances.
 
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Continued prayers for the German Church! May God multiply their vocations in the priesthood and religious life! Amen!
 
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Continued prayers for the German Church! May God multiply their vocations in the priesthood and religious life! Amen!
The Catholic Church in Germany is moribund. Oh, a few rare outposts of the Faith, but overall it's dead. Empty church buildings, membership in collapse, strange folks with sinecures due to the German 'Church Tax', and not much more. The idea to ordain married men is actually one of the tamest ideas to come out of the 'German Church' in a long time.
 
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The Catholic Church in Germany is moribund. Oh, a few rare outposts of the Faith, but overall it's dead. Empty church buildings, membership in collapse, strange folks with sinecures due to the German 'Church Tax', and not much more. The idea to ordain married men is actually one of the tamest ideas to come out of the 'German Church' in a long time.
Doesn’t surprise me sadly. Lord, have mercy! Christ, have mercy! Praying for an outpouring of the Holy Spirit to clean up this mess! Ugh!
 
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Doesn’t surprise me sadly. Lord, have mercy! Christ, have mercy! Praying for an outpouring of the Holy Spirit to clean up this mess! Ugh!
It is said that a fish rots from the head.
 
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It is said that a fish rots from the head.
Wonder how the Catholic Church is doing in Austria and Switzerland? Not to go off topic, but I wonder if the Church in Germany influences them at all?
 
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Wonder how the Catholic Church is doing in Austria and Switzerland? Not to go off topic, but I wonder if the Church in Germany influences them at all?
Austria? Badly. Switzerland? I don't know.
 
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Austria? Badly. Switzerland? I don't know.
That’s very unfortunate. I thought at one point the Austrian faithful were very devout! Prayers for them also!
 
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