War scholar opinion on alleged genocide in Gaza

Valletta said:

Oh I care.

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You've not shown the slightest concern whatsoever. None at all. Your posts are devoid of any compassion for the tragedy which is there for all to see. I'm not interested in continuing this...discussion. I'd be in serious danger of losing my right to post in this forum if it progressed. Please direct your excuses for this genocide elsewhere.

Valletta said:

The attack...

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I'm not the slightest bit interested in anything you have to add. I'm going to see if there are any threads in this forum where people exhibit some basic humanity.

Valletta said:

The president...

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Not interested.

Bradskii said:

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I'm thinking hotels, I'm thinking casinos, I'm think luxury villas.

Valletta said:

Hamas wants women and children killed for their cause.

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To be fair the IDF are doing a very good for them.

ozso said:

It's more a question of how much blood does Hamas want? They attacked, and kept attacking Israel, knowing full well that Israel had significantly greater military power and that Palestinian civilians would end up dead (especially with Hamas using civilians as shields) and attacked anyways.

This reminds me of all the why questions asked by conspiracy theorists about the 9/11 World Trade Center attack, claiming it was an inside job.

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Ozso you ask how much blood does Hamas demand. As much blood as their handler Israel allows. Israel has always discreetly financed and militarily backed Hamas from its creation in the late 80’s. They have continued to use Hamas as a wedge between Gaza and Lebanon becoming a one state government. The climax being achieved in 2006-2007 with.Hamas winning possession of Gaza from the Fatah or originally the PLO. Here are some statements 1 ( Avner Cohan. Former Israeli affairs minister who worked within Gaza for some 20 yrs ( sadly Hamas to my regret is Israel’s creation ) 2 brigadier general Yitzhak said he was given a budget to help finance Islamic movements in Gaza to counter Yasser Arafats Fatah movement. 3 Yasser Arafat said himself that Hamas was always a creation of Israel. Perhaps it’s something that Israel is capable of doing considering all the unanswered questions I put forth in my previous post. I don’t say that lightly but you must remember Israel has put false flags up before. Such as the premeditated attack on the USS Liberty a American surveillance ship on June the 8th 1967. First they strafed and attacked from Israeli fighter jets along with napalm. Then they attacked it with torpedo boats. How the ship managed to stay afloat was a act of God. With all communications knocked out It took the bravery of a sailor climbing up the mask to wire up a communication set and being able to finally transmit a Mayday call to the American fleet.. And considering that all their life boats were shot to bits upon considering abandoning ship. The reality of that is that the USS Liberty was only meant to be in one place after the many attacks. That being at the bottom of the ocean with no survivors . Of course the blame would have been placed on the Egyptians dragging the Americans into the 6 day war I guess when you continue to treat peoples as 2nd class citizens within their own country you might expect some retaliation from the Palestinians. After all Israel has been busy about continuing its ethnic cleansing program since 1947 onwards with the likes of the stern gang and Irgun even blowing up the King David hotel and machine gunning entire Palestinian villages after the British left And so the mass exodus began with the Palestinian fleeing for their lives. Ozso you than bring up 9:11. When considering the pride and workmanship and how the Americans look upon their steel manufacturing and considering that those towers were meant to accommodate and withstand such disasters as a air strike. And considering something of lesser size like the Empire State Building withstood a bomber crashing into it in 1945 it withstood the impact extremely well. Many believe it was a demolition job because of the free fall . And considering no sky scrapper had never been brought down in such a manner prior to 9:11 . I can understand why many believe that it was a inside job. You might check this web site out for further information . Yours Kathleen WWW.ae911truth.org

Valletta said:

Israel does not want blood, it is Hamas and the Gazans who support them who want the blood of women and children. As to security, Hamas begged the world for concrete they said they needed. They spent years carefully and craftily building an extensive tunnel system, linked to hospitals so they could hide there. Many many Gazans had to know this but did not report it to the United States or Israel. Defense people get complacent, we saw this with President Trump and the Secret Service. They had an active report of someone with a range finder and let the president go out there in public. Locally here there were two people here that called and called FBI headquarters and reported a Muslim was taking flying lessons for a jumbo aircraft but repeatedly said he did not want to learn how to land. Here too the Biden administration released people on the terrorist list into our country.

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Valletta the tunneling systems have been known and detected for decades . Too many coincidences for me . People will choose to be be sleepy at the wheel also when a agenda is required

Kathleen30 said:

Ozso you ask how much blood does Hamas demand. As much blood as their handler Israel allows. Israel has always discreetly financed and militarily backed Hamas from its creation in the late 80’s.

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This is not the conspiracy theory section.

ozso said:

This is not the conspiracy theory section.

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why would you even think that . I simply state facts . About the only person that has conspiracy theories on one’s mind seems to be you. Seems Israel can do no wrong in your eyes

Valletta said:

Israel did not know no idea of the vast extent of the tunnels. And the news media was not telling the story as the Gazans begged the world for concrete to "rebuild." If you follow the news you will see Israel continues to make discoveries.

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Valletta of course Israel know they have enough tunnel complexes of their own. Is it a crime for the Palestinians to have tunnel complexes as well ? And when considering how Gaza looks now. As Bradskii’s photo tragically shows. It might be the only temporary safety and solitude the Palestinians find when considering the hell on earth above

Kathleen30 said:

Is it a crime for the Palestinians to have tunnel complexes as well ?

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The tunnels are used to hide Hamas and their weapons not to protect Palestinians. Hamas could not care less about the Palestinian people.

Valletta said:

Still image from a Hamas video showing an emaciated Evyatar David sends shockwaves through Israel - i24NEWS

Many Israelis, including released hostage Liri Elbag, said the image could not but conjure up the horrors of Nazi camps

www.i24news.tv

As I said, Israel was not aware of the EXTENT of the tunnels. Let's not rewrite history:

"In a press conference Sunday night, IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said the tunnel was “no ordinary tunnel. It’s a city. A terrorist city underground that Hamas dug and built instead of investing money in the residents of Gaza.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-uncovers-largest-ever-hamas-attack-tunnel-near-northern-gaza-border-crossing/

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Well of course they never knew the extent of the tunnel systems . And nor should they know but they knew well they were there. Just as no one knows the full extent of Israel’s tunnelling system except Israel itself I’m sure the surprise would be equally shared if they ever had their neck of the woods invaded and probed as Gaza has . As to terrorists. Israel be just as bad it’s not solely meant for Hamas . Valletta you must remember it was Israel that has been funding Hamas since its existence from the mid 80’s . And it still doesn’t justify the slaughter of 50 thousand Palestinians. And considering Hamas ties with Israel over the decades. And how that attack was so easily allowed to happen a year ago upon Israel. There be a reason Israel has never wanted a two state system because they don’t want it. They prefer the Palestinians exit into neighbouring countries

Hentenza said:

The tunnels are used to hide Hamas and their weapons not to protect Palestinians. Hamas could not care less about the Palestinian people.

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Henteanza that could well be true with the upper eclons of Hamas leadership considering Israel has financed Hamas for decades. But who created this Frankenstein.? Israel. Suits Israeli policy just fine. Ethnic cleansing which hasn’t stopped since 1948

Valletta said:

The attack was one of the most horrific attacks, a slaughter, in modern history.

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only if you don't count the deaths of muslims, christians, or displaced persons as slaughter.