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Gaza: In the face of horror, we cannot look away.

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Well, my grandma spoke fluent slovak, and she lived in a Slovak neighborhood, and frequented the "Slovak Club"... Not kidding. And my dad went to a Catholic school whith predominantly Slovak kids who were all from the same neighborhood.

Sooooo.... If you were to suggest that Western Europe "got rid of all their Slovaks a long time ago" I would feel uncomfortable hearing that. I can imagine Jews would feel similarly.
It might be different if Western Europe had gotten rid of the Slovaks by gassing them.
But I'm also half English on my mom's side. You asked, I answered.
 
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It might be different if Western Europe had gotten rid of the Slovaks by gassing them.
Oh, you were talking about Germany. I don't consider Germany to be a part of Western Europe, that's why I was confused.

...I consider it Central.
 
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Oh, you were talking about Germany. I don't consider Germany to be a part of Western Europe, that's why I was confused.

...I consider it Central.
That's interesting. I spent a month travelling in that part of the world two years ago (Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary) not very long, but I only had the sense that I was somewhere really different when I made it to Hungary.
 
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That's interesting. I spent a month travelling in that part of the world two years ago (Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary) not very long, but I only had the sense that I was somewhere really different when I made it to Hungary.

And if you would have continued further, you would have found yourself in Serbia, where you would have really noticed a difference. Serbia! The crossroads between Eastern and Weatern worlds
 
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Are they blinded by the Hamas propaganda that CF posters insist upon?
I think their conclusions may be correct. They had little to nothing to say in rhe article concerning Israel shooting Palistinians just trying to get food. Because thats not happening.

They did give an opinion regarding Israel's goals in digging out all areas where Hamas may be hiding.

Netanyahu’s objectives in Gaza are “a fantasy,” Yoram Cohen, former head of Shin Bet, said in the video.

anyone imagines that we can reach every terrorist and every pit and every weapon, and in parallel bring our hostages home — I think it is impossible,” he said.

He may be correct. If that is the goal, I don't know that it can be done either.

I will say that the war should be over when Israel has crushed Hamas to rhe point it will no longer be a danger to the country and have ANY power in Gaza.
 
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Trump is worried about the starving children in Gaza. He wants the US to take over aid distribution.

Trump is "not thrilled" about the idea of the U.S. taking charge, but it kind of has to happen, the official said. "There doesn't seem to be another way."

"The starvation problem in Gaza is getting worse. Donald Trump doesn't like that. He does not want babies to starve. He wants mothers to be able to nurse their babies. He's becoming fixated on that," the official continued.



So even Trump is buying into what CF posters are calling "Hamas propaganda"? Strange.
 
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I think their conclusions may be correct. They had little to nothing to say in rhe article concerning Israel shooting Palistinians just trying to get food. Because thats not happening.
Did you miss this in the article that you’re commenting upon?
Several hundred Palestinians have been killed by Israeli fire since May while heading toward food distribution sites, airdropped parcels and aid convoys, according to witnesses, local health officials and the U.N. human rights office. Israel’s military says it only has fired warning shots and disputes the toll.
 
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Did you miss this in the article that you’re commenting upon?
The article said that, not the Isreali intelligence chiefs. Of course the reporter said that becauae thats what they are being told by Hamas propegandists.
 
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The article said that, not the Isreali intelligence chiefs. Of course the reporter said that becauae thats what they are being told by Hamas propegandists.
they say in war, the first casualty is the truth.

if you have not been there, why believe anything you hear?

has not 50,000:1000 been enough of an over reaction?

so you say it wasn't 50,000.
what if it was 10,000.
surely it must have been 10,000

80% of the buildings are gone...

israel? had double digit casualties and a handful of buildings dropped by the alleged funders of hamas.. iran, over 1000 miles away.

something.. doesn't add up.

i can think of so many more cost effective ways if iran really wants to kill random israeli citizens.
 
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It’s all a lie and dictated by Hamas.

Former AP journalist speaks out about censorship controlled by Hamas.

 
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I believe the child has cerebral palsy, but is certainly malnourished. There was no retraction, but an added statement.

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No, the child is NOT malnourished. That is the way all people with spastic CP look like. Their bodies expend so much energy keeping their muscles in extreme spasticity that they don’t have the ability to gain weight.
 
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Your opinion. Hamas started it and continues to hide among the people regardless of how many die. It wouldn’t surprise me if they stage murders to blame Israel. That is how terrorist organizations work.
Already been done. Don’t forget those videos Hamas released who staged alive “dead” people covered in sheets to show how many dead Palestinians there were after a couple Israeli attacks. Both showed the corpses moving and talking.
 
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It’s all a lie and dictated by Hamas.

Former AP journalist speaks out about censorship controlled by Hamas.


Trump is convinced children are starving in Gaza. Is he fooled by propaganda or does he know it's true?
 
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Trump is convinced children are starving in Gaza. Is he fooled by propaganda or does he know it's true?
I don’t know what he thinks. I’m sure he understands that if people are starving it’s because Hamas is stealing the food and selling it to buy weapons because enough food has been sent in to last for two years. The US and Israel are working on a way to get the food directly to the people instead of delivering the food to Hamas and trusting them to distribute it like the UN does.

I doubt his thoughts have changed over the last couple days.
 
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I don’t know what he thinks. I’m sure he understands that if people are starving it’s because Hamas is stealing the food and selling it to buy weapons because enough food has been sent in to last for two years. The US and Israel are working on a way to get the food directly to the people instead of delivering the food to Hamas and trusting them to distribute it like the UN does.

I doubt his thoughts have changed over the last couple days.

Israeli forces are shooting people trying to get aid. Trump is concerned about children starving and has considered taking over food distribution. Don't forget, Israel blocked aid and food from coming into Gaza, so Israel is the primary cause of people starving. Either you and your fellow posters have a short memory or you have been fooled by Netanyahu's propaganda.

 
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Is he fooled by propaganda or does he know it's true?
With his lack of interest in briefings, inability to concentrate on things that don’t glorify him and functional illiteracy I doubt he has any more insight into the subject than others who have watched the news.
 
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With his lack of interest in briefings, inability to concentrate on things that don’t glorify him and functional illiteracy I doubt he has any more insight into the subject than others who have watched the news.

Why should that matter? These people support everything he does and says. And, honestly, this is one of the few times he's shown compassion for anyone. I think he knows good and well what's going on there. Why is it after his envoy visits, he decides maybe the US should take over distribution? He knows people are starving and why.
 
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Why should that matter?

Because you’re pointing to his position as authoritative.

These people support everything he does and says. And, honestly, this is one of the few times he's shown compassion for anyone. I think he knows good and well what's going on there.

I doubt it. It’s unlikely they could work his name into a briefing on food distribution enough times to hold his attention.
 
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