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Jobs report lousy: Trump shoots the messenger

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While his reason may be incorrect, his action is undeniably authoritarian. Potemkin stats, anyone?
He may have more reason to be angry since news of more downward revisions that point more to his predecessor. It seems he has inherited a hidden mess.






 
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...maybe you should do some more research on why the initial job report is routinely revised.
He is so toxic. Now confidence in economic data is undermined just because he says so.
 
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He is a business school graduate and a variably successful businessman so I would expect him to understand how the statistics are gathered and reported. I wish he could go by understanding rather than always giving in to his feelings. Of course, what understanding he had in his glory days is diminished of late.
This is the same man who recently said, "“You know, we’ve cut drug prices by 1,200, 1,300, 1,400, 1,500%. I don’t mean 50%, I mean 14 — 1,500%.”
Mathing ain't his thing.
 
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Doesn't support your point.
9,000 posts back, you said Biden’s decline never happened. I posted the article on Tapper’s book specific to that. Now you say that doesn’t support my point. I will post the link to Tapper’s book again which does support recognition of Biden’s decline.



Since you think Joe was doing so well you should have consulted these esteemed people:

 
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This is the same man who recently said, "“You know, we’ve cut drug prices by 1,200, 1,300, 1,400, 1,500%. I don’t mean 50%, I mean 14 — 1,500%.”
Mathing ain't his thing.
Soon he will take the logarithm of the budget deficit...
 
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Why did LBJ decline to run in '68?
Because Johnson who's health was in decline, had more sense than Biden, who did run and then had to drop out more than halfway though. LBJ knew better, Biden didn't.
 
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Kind of hard to make the resources more reliable when you enact DOGE cuts that sure fire is going to make data gathering harder and less reliable.
Actually cutting off the branches of unnecessary wasteful resources, should make data gathering easier and more reliable. Seems likely BLS will operate more efficiently with the Democrat rat's nest cleared away.
 
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Actually cutting off the branches of unnecessary wasteful resources, should make data gathering easier and more reliable. Seems likely BLS will operate more efficiently with the Democrat rat's nest cleared away.
Actually not.

Notice of CPI collection reductions

BLS is reducing sample collection in areas across the country. In April, BLS suspended CPI data collection entirely in Lincoln, NE, and Provo, UT. In June, BLS suspended collection entirely in Buffalo, NY.
Collection reduction and suspension affect both the Commodity and Services survey and the Housing survey. These actions have minimal impact on the overall all-items CPI-U and CPI-W indexes. The actions may increase the volatility of subnational or item-specific indexes. The number of imputed items increased in April due to these actions. BLS makes reductions when current resources can no longer support the collection effort. BLS will continue to evaluate survey operations.

U.S. data quality has been declining for years. Now Trump’s cutbacks are leading economists to question its figures

A key federal agency is increasingly publishing less accurate inflation data thanks in part to a hiring freeze issued by the Trump administration in January. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is part of the Labor Department, is increasingly relying on data collection methods that are less accurate than usual and has stopped tracking inflation figures in three U.S. cities.
They complain about accuracy, but take steps to make it worse
 
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Notice of CPI collection reductions

BLS is reducing sample collection in areas across the country. In April, BLS suspended CPI data collection entirely in Lincoln, NE, and Provo, UT. In June, BLS suspended collection entirely in Buffalo, NY.
Collection reduction and suspension affect both the Commodity and Services survey and the Housing survey. These actions have minimal impact on the overall all-items CPI-U and CPI-W indexes. The actions may increase the volatility of subnational or item-specific indexes. The number of imputed items increased in April due to these actions. BLS makes reductions when current resources can no longer support the collection effort. BLS will continue to evaluate survey operations.

U.S. data quality has been declining for years. Now Trump’s cutbacks are leading economists to question its figures

A key federal agency is increasingly publishing less accurate inflation data thanks in part to a hiring freeze issued by the Trump administration in January. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is part of the Labor Department, is increasingly relying on data collection methods that are less accurate than usual and has stopped tracking inflation figures in three U.S. cities.
They complain about accuracy, but take steps to make it worse
What stands out is that it's been declining for years. So what would make things worse for the previous bad management, isn't necessarily going to make it worse for the new management of the BLS.
 
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What stands out is that it's been declining for years. So what would make things worse for the previous bad management, isn't necessarily going to make it worse for the new management of the BLS.
Yes a problem they understood and tapped advisory groups to resolve the problems. They got DOGE'ed.
 
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He may have more reason to be angry since news of more downward revisions that point more to his predecessor. It seems he has inherited a hidden mess.

Sure, he has reason to be angry, BUT firing the person in charge for doing her job correctly sends a very loud message to everyone reporting to him: you will be punished for accuracy. What kind of leadership is this? Authoritarian.

The rage and panic he has reason to feel prevent him from fixing the underlying problem; instead, he "fixes" the appearance, giving into rage, concentrating on people around him.
 
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Sure, he has reason to be angry, BUT firing the person in charge for doing her job correctly sends a very loud message to everyone reporting to him: you will be punished for accuracy. What kind of leadership is this? Authoritarian.

The rage and panic he has reason to feel prevent him from fixing the underlying problem; instead, he "fixes" the appearance, giving into rage, concentrating on people around him.
I have pointed out earlier that at on August 1st, Trump actually had stats that he could argue in his favor. In a few hours the whole scenario shifted. He pointed out that similar revisions for his predecessor took much longer to be compiled or were only provided for political damage control. I don’t believe his move is as outrageous as is being made out.
 
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Actually not.

Notice of CPI collection reductions

BLS is reducing sample collection in areas across the country. In April, BLS suspended CPI data collection entirely in Lincoln, NE, and Provo, UT. In June, BLS suspended collection entirely in Buffalo, NY.
Collection reduction and suspension affect both the Commodity and Services survey and the Housing survey. These actions have minimal impact on the overall all-items CPI-U and CPI-W indexes. The actions may increase the volatility of subnational or item-specific indexes. The number of imputed items increased in April due to these actions. BLS makes reductions when current resources can no longer support the collection effort. BLS will continue to evaluate survey operations.

U.S. data quality has been declining for years. Now Trump’s cutbacks are leading economists to question its figures

A key federal agency is increasingly publishing less accurate inflation data thanks in part to a hiring freeze issued by the Trump administration in January. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is part of the Labor Department, is increasingly relying on data collection methods that are less accurate than usual and has stopped tracking inflation figures in three U.S. cities.
They complain about accuracy, but take steps to make it worse
They sure got the stats revisedon Trump much faster than for the previous guy.
 
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