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Gaza: In the face of horror, we cannot look away.

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Only if we completely ignore the literal decades of history before October 2023.

Also "they started it" isn't a good excuse when it's children on a playground. It's far less valid of an excuse here, where literal human lives are at stake.

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Okay, all started by various Arabs in the region. Most recently, Hamas.
 
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They started the current bloodshed. All down to them going on a murderous rampage on that fateful October.

IOW, Israel has *zero* accountability for the decisions they make because Hamas started it.

Starving the civilian population because Hamas may be stealing some of the food aid is a morally bankrupt position.
 
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‘Enter the information war. Perceptions of civilian casualties in Gaza are, in strategic military parlance, the center of gravity for the conflict. High civilian casualties will dissipate Israel's international support and risk limiting the destruction they can rain on Hamas. Each side knows this and will attempt to shape perceptions, in some cases through any means necessary, and false information will play a key role.

This information war will play out on several fronts. In Gaza, Israel and Hamas will release information that is to their advantage. IDF spokesmen will highlight Hamas's use of human shields and Israeli care in striking targets. Hamas will play up the civilian toll. Both sides will release reams of supporting footage. Outside Gaza, throngs of worldwide supporters will be eager to cheer the cause for their side and will create, like, and share content accordingly.”

 
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IOW, Israel has *zero* accountability for the decisions they make because Hamas started it.

Starving the civilian population because Hamas may be stealing some of the food aid is a morally bankrupt position.
All down to hamas....100%
 
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All down to hamas....100%
The Germans quickly abandoned Nazi affiliation after the war, and even then, still suffered around the world through constant deportations.

Now we have Palestinians who still allow Hamas to be their government, and they are being defended by Westerners.

...We live in a sick world.
 
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How many heroic Palestinians have been killed hy Hamas for attempting to overthrow them? Zero? Oh...
Here is one.

“CNN —
A 22-year-old Palestinian man was tortured and killed by Hamas militants after he criticized the group publicly and participated in rare anti-Hamas protests in Gaza, his family said.

Uday Rabie was taken last week by dozens of armed fighters with Hamas’ military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, in the Tal al-Hawa neighborhood of Gaza City, his brother Hassan Rabie told CNN on Tuesday.”

 
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Here is one.

“CNN —
A 22-year-old Palestinian man was tortured and killed by Hamas militants after he criticized the group publicly and participated in rare anti-Hamas protests in Gaza, his family said.

Uday Rabie was taken last week by dozens of armed fighters with Hamas’ military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, in the Tal al-Hawa neighborhood of Gaza City, his brother Hassan Rabie told CNN on Tuesday.”

God bless Uday Rabie..! The best Palestinian I've ever heard of!
 
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This is fresh off the press... It's probably the right choice, considering how Hamas handles dissidents.

"Israeli journalist Amit Segal, a commentator for Channel 12, the country’s highest-rated news broadcast, quoted a source from the office of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as saying that the "decision has been made… we are going to occupy the Gaza Strip."

"Hamas will not release hostages without total surrender, if we do not operate now the hostages will die of starvation and Gaza will stay under Hamas’ control," Segal quoted the official as saying."


 
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This is fresh off the press... It's probably the right choice, considering how Hamas handles dissidents.

"Israeli journalist Amit Segal, a commentator for Channel 12, the country’s highest-rated news broadcast, quoted a source from the office of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as saying that the "decision has been made… we are going to occupy the Gaza Strip."

"Hamas will not release hostages without total surrender, if we do not operate now the hostages will die of starvation and Gaza will stay under Hamas’ control," Segal quoted the official as saying."


Won’t this make the apartheid official?
 
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It's probably the right choice
I think it's too early to tell on that one...

Given that the international community is getting increasingly "Okay, enough" towards Bibi (as is half of the MAGA base here in the US, and 75% of the Democratic party)

Full-blown occupation at the expense of losing all your allies could spell disaster for them.
 
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Won’t this make the apartheid official?
It will serve to “segregate and separate“ the civilians from the terrorists.
 
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Won’t this make the apartheid official?
Apartheid is a complex word, that I don't completely understand, even after studying it for weeks.
 
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