Exclusive: The White House is looking to replace Pete Hegseth as defense secretary

iluvatar5150 · 2025-08-01T15:01:02-0500

Always in His Presence said:
Can I let go of my butt? He is still there.

Stripped of its context, this might be my favorite post.

Bradskii · 2025-08-01T20:35:05-0500

Always in His Presence said:
Can I let go of my butt? He is still there.

We're just as surprised as you are.

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-01T21:24:01-0500

Bradskii said:
We're just as surprised as you are.

I’m not surprised at all. The unsubstantiated rumors are laughable

Bradskii · 2025-08-01T21:39:40-0500

Always in His Presence said:
I’m not surprised at all. The unsubstantiated rumors are laughable

Watchdog told Hegseth’s leaked Signal chat info came from email classified ‘secret’

The classified message was also headed as ‘NOFORN’ – meaning that it was not to be seen by foreign nationals

www.independent.co.uk

'The reporting that the information Hegseth is accused of sharing on the chat came from a file marked “SECRET/NOFORN” is at odds with the stance taken by the Trump administration in the aftermath of the incident, that no classified information was divulged.

Signalgate is now being investigated by the Defense Department inspector general’s office at the request of both Republican and Democratic members of the Senate Armed Services Committee.'

Tick, tick, tick...

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-02T07:24:41-0500

Bradskii said:
Watchdog told Hegseth’s leaked Signal chat info came from email classified ‘secret’

The classified message was also headed as ‘NOFORN’ – meaning that it was not to be seen by foreign nationals

www.independent.co.uk

'The reporting that the information Hegseth is accused of sharing on the chat came from a file marked “SECRET/NOFORN” is at odds with the stance taken by the Trump administration in the aftermath of the incident, that no classified information was divulged.

Signalgate is now being investigated by the Defense Department inspector general’s office at the request of both Republican and Democratic members of the Senate Armed Services Committee.'

Tick, tick, tick...

From your link

according to several people familiar with the matter, who spoke to The Washington Post.

Oh goody. Verifying information from an unsubstantiated source

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Yeah, that been working well so far

#liberalpipedreams

wing2000 · 2025-08-02T08:33:14-0500

Always in His Presence said:
I’m not surprised at all. The unsubstantiated rumors are laughable

I underestimated Trump's continued willingness allow the Secretary of Defense's "loose lips" to endanger US military operations.

There's nothing "liberal" or "conservative" in practicing effective ops security and leading by example.

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-02T09:16:21-0500

wing2000 said:
I underestimated Trump's continued willingness allow the Secretary of Defense's "loose lips" to endanger US military operations.

I understand your opinion and vitriolic position on all things Trump and the seemingly incessant need for detractors to cast him in the worst possible light.

Substantiated facts are reality - your comment above are not facts, but political narrative.

wing2000 · 2025-08-02T10:21:37-0500

Always in His Presence said:
I understand your opinion and vitriolic position on all things Trump and the seemingly incessant need for detractors to cast him in the worst possible light.

Substantiated facts are reality - your comment above are not facts, but political narrative.

Are you suggesting the SoD did not use the SIGNAL app on an unsecure phone to share classified information? That is a fact.

Say it aint so · 2025-08-02T10:27:42-0500

Wow. Just intuitively.

"NOFORN" stands for Not Releasable to Foreign Nationals. It's a classification marking used by the U.S. government to restrict the distribution of sensitive information, meaning it cannot be shared with foreign governments, foreign nationals, or international organizations"

Now would communications of a secret surprise missile strike on a foreign entity have such a classification?

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-02T11:40:47-0500

wing2000 said:
Are you suggesting the SoD did not use the SIGNAL app on an unsecure phone to share classified information? That is a fact.

Hegseth has denied the information he shared was classified, but it was given to him on a system for sensitive and classified information, sources told NBC News.

Just because the information was given on a secure system, does not make it classified. Do we really need to rehash this again?

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-02T11:41:12-0500

Say it aint so said:
Now would communications of a secret surprise missile strike on a foreign entity have such a classification?

After it happened.

Say it aint so · 2025-08-02T12:06:02-0500

Always in His Presence said:
After it happened.

The signal chat laying out the pending missile strike "derived" from a top secret email.
So before.

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-02T12:07:47-0500

Say it aint so said:
The signal chat laying out the pending missile strike "derived" from a top secret email.
So before.

Wrong - he sent it after the strike - mentioned no targets - no methods - no equipment used

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-02T12:14:48-0500

After the messages were published, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt issued another denial: “The Atlantic has conceded: these were NOT ‘war plans,’” Leavitt said in a post on X. “This entire story was another hoax written by a Trump-hater who is well-known for his sensationalist spin.”

Say it aint so · 2025-08-02T12:15:51-0500

Always in His Presence said:
Wrong - he sent it after the strike - mentioned no targets - no methods - no equipment used

Good grief. Is the earth a globe?

The messages from Hegseth, sent on the day of the attack, March 15, contain a detailed timeline of when U.S. forces would strike Houthi targets in Yemen. “Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME,” one of the messages Hegseth wrote that day said.

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-02T12:19:43-0500

Here are the Texts:

“1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package),” Hegseth wrote. “1345: ‘Trigger Based’ F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME—also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s).”

At 2:10 p.m., “more F-18s” were to launch, Hegseth wrote. “1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier ‘Trigger Based’ targets),” Hegseth wrote.

“1536 F-18 2nd Strike Starts—also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched,” Hegseth said. At the end of the plans, he wrote: “Godspeed to our Warriors.”

No mention of which target in the world it is. - no city - nadda

In addition:

Waltz said he took “full responsibility” and that he was investigating how Goldberg had gained access to the chat.

Hegseth didn't form the chat, nor invite people into it. If someone needs to be fired - Waltz should - he already took full responsibility.

Signal chats about Yemen published in full

Messages from Pete Hegseth contain detailed timeline of when U.S. forces would strike in Yemen and type of weapons they would use

www.independent.co.uk

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