Obama referred to DOJ for criminal charges

Hans Blaster · Jul 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
Really? Because it was classified information until three days ago - how did you know?

What was the classified bit, now? (The general pattern is well known from numerous reports and documents.)

Always in His Presence · Jul 22, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
What was the classified bit, now? (The general pattern is well known from numerous reports and documents.)

Already posted -

Say it aint so · Jul 22, 2025

From the Mueller Report:

Intrusions Targeting the Administration of U.S. Elections

In addition to targeting individuals involved in the Clinton Campaign, GRU officers also targeted individuals and entities involved in the administration of the elections. Victims included U.S. state and local entities, such as state boards of elections (SBOEs), secretaries of state, and county governments, as well as individuals who worked for those entities.186 The GRU also targeted private technology firms responsible for manufacturing and administering election-related software and hardware, such as voter registration software and electronic polling stations.187 The GRU continued to target these victims through the elections in November 2016. While the investigation identified evidence that the GRU targeted these individuals and entities, the Office did not investigate further. The Office did not, for instance, obtain or examine servers or other relevant items belonging to these victims. The Office understands that the FBI, the U.S.

Department of Homeland Security, and the states have separately investigated that activity. By at least the summer of 2016, GRU officers sought access to state and local computer networks by exploiting known software vulnerabilities on websites of state and local governmental

entities. GRU officers, for example, targeted state and local databases of registered voters using a technique known as “SQL injection,” by which malicious code was sent to the state or local website in order to run commands (such as exfiltrating the database contents).

It's not that Russia did not try to cyber attack the US's voting hardware during the time Obama asked it to be looked into.
Trump's own intel Director John Radcliff came to the same conclusion of Russia's effort.
The Bipartisan Senate Intel committee led by Sen Marco Rubio came to the same conclusion.
They weren't successful.

Gabbi is just doing what GOP House leader Mike Johnson is doing by canceling all votes till Sept. Throw shade for Trump.

Always in His Presence · Jul 22, 2025

"NEWLY-DECLASSIFIED DOC shows DOJ Inspector Gen concluded the Comey-run FBI FAILED 2 conduct a thorough + complete investigation into Clinton email scandal Comey & his team ate up Steele Dossier lies + chased after Russia collusion hoax but took kid gloves approach on Clinton," Grassley posted Monday.

Always in His Presence · Jul 22, 2025

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
Is it considered a crime to make a statement to the media that contradicts a previous statement?

No clue - who said it was?

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
I see you don’t want to debate. That’s fine.

I am sure we will debate and disagree or agree on other thread!

Have a blessed day!

It's not debating (example above) when you ask questions on things that were never stated. How can I answer a question on something I never said?

It seems you are adding one and one and getting banana.

Hans Blaster · Jul 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
Already posted -

Where? I haven't seen any thing you've posted yet that wasn't known already.

Yarddog · Jul 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
DOJ receives Gabbard's criminal referral on bombshell Russia claims | Fox News

Gabbard released unclassified documents that reportedly show "overwhelming evidence" that President Barack Obama and his team laid the groundwork for what would be the yearslong Trump–Russia probe.

www.foxnews.com

The Department of Justice confirmed Monday that it has received Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard's criminal referral related to her bombshell claims that Obama-era officials "manufactured and politicized intelligence" to create the narrative that Russia was attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election, Fox News has confirmed.

The Department of Justice declined further comment, but confirmed to Fox News that the department received the referral.

Gabbard released unclassified documents Friday that reportedly show "overwhelming evidence" that then-President Barack Obama and his national security team laid the groundwork for what would be the yearslong Trump-Russia collusion probe after Trump's election win against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2016.

It's my understanding that Gabbard didn't release actual evidence to back up her claim. Her tweets were small clips without the full context.

Always in His Presence · Jul 22, 2025

Here are the actual documents:

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-Declassified-Evidence-Obama-Subvert-President-Trump-2016-Victory-Election-July2025.pdf

Hans Blaster · Jul 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
Here are the actual documents:

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-Declassified-Evidence-Obama-Subvert-President-Trump-2016-Victory-Election-July2025.pdf

I went through these. Nothing both new and significant.

Always in His Presence · Jul 22, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
I went through these. Nothing both new and significant.

You might want to let the FBI and DOJ know. It’ll save them time.

Hans Blaster · Jul 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
You might want to let the FBI and DOJ know. It’ll save them time.

They are not looking to save time. They are looking for:

1) ways to attack their political enemies
2) distractions from Epstein.

If these "new" things are so obvious, why can't you point one out?

Always in His Presence · Jul 22, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
They are not looking to save time. They are looking for:

1) ways to attack their political enemies
2) distractions from Epstein.

If these "new" things are so obvious, why can't you point one out?

I already have. I quoted it gave you the link. Your reply was it was something already known.

I mentioned that it was certain classified until three days ago and how did you know.

You completely ignored that.

Hans Blaster · Jul 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
I already have.

You actually haven't. Links to Tulsi's "document dump" isn't going to cut it. Neither did post #66. What would cut the mustard would be:

1. Something from the new release
2. The parallel text from earlier releases that show it was new
3. Some reason why it matters specifically

It could be like post #66, but it needs to be shown that it is new and relevant. (External analyses are acceptable, but
AI (Autotomated Idiocy) summaries are not going to cut it. Too many of those are "trained" on piles of bad info, but none of them can be trusted.

Always in His Presence · Jul 22, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
They are not looking to save time. They are looking for:

1) ways to attack their political enemies
2) distractions from Epstein.

Anything to prove this beyond cause you say so?

DaisyDay · Jul 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
One instance was on Dec. 7, 2016, weeks after the election. Then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper’s talking points stated: "Foreign adversaries did not use cyberattacks on election infrastructure to alter the U.S. presidential election outcome."

Fox News Digital obtained a declassified copy of the Presidential Daily Brief, which was prepared by the Department of Homeland Security, with reporting from the CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, FBI, National Security Agency, Department of Homeland Security, State Department and open sources, for Obama, dated Dec. 8, 2016.

Yes, back in 2016 we had heard that the Russians poked around some voting systems but did not change anything. Why is this interesting now?

DaisyDay · Jul 22, 2025

Say it aint so said:
Paul Manafort admits he passed Trump campaign data to a suspected Russian asset.
Trump admits son met Russian for information on opponent
George Papadopoulos pleads guilty of lying to FBI agents about Russian interactions.

You can't get more colluding than that.

Well, there was the time that Russian lady contacted Donald Trump Jr. offering information against Clinton and he enthusiastically agreed. They set up a meeting at Trump Tower. Junior was disappointed that apparently, they didn't offer anything of value. Junior's brother-in-law suggested opening a secret back channel to the Kremlin. Nothing came of it, but it was not for wont of willingness from the campaign.

All that Daddy Trump is accusing others of seems to be the things he did himself.

essentialsaltes · Jul 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
do you not realize that the very same man who made the statement above, shortly after helped start the Russian collusion fiasco saying the exact opposite.

Foreign adversaries
DID NOT
use cyberattacks
on election infrastructure
to alter the outcome of the election

Foreign adversaries
DID
use cyberattacks
on "U.S. persons and entities involved in the 2016 U.S. presidential election"
to "[steal] documents from those computers, and [stage] releases of the stolen documents to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election."

These things are not exact opposites.

BCP1928 · Jul 22, 2025

It would be absolutely delicious if they actually put Obama on trial for treason. Oh, what a show that would be!

RocksInMyHead · Jul 22, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
These things are not exact opposites.

Reading comprehension skills have really gone downhill lately. You hate to see it.

durangodawood · Jul 22, 2025

Trying to paper over the Epstein billboard with every little scrap they can scrounge up.

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