The man with the legion?

Neogaia777 said:

I'm going to try to give some insight into the activity of most demons, and what they are actually out to try and do with most of us, etc, but that sometimes doesn't go exactly according to plan. Let's take the man with the legion, and why Jesus sent them (those demons inhabiting that man) into the pigs, and why the pigs immediately rushed over the precipice to die for a minute, and why it was actually an act of compassion upon those demons by Jesus? Jesus sought this man out, the man with the legion, and he didn't do this with hardly anyone else, and made quite the journey/trip out of his way to do it, etc. When a demon, or a group of demons, first makes a decision to target somebody, the first thing they do is get inside the person for what they think is going to be for them (at first) somebody that is going to provide them with a lot of very great fun, and much entertainment, at first anyway, etc, but, when the fun stops being fun or entertaining anymore, then they usually try to get that person to off themselves or die so they can then get released from that person, and go elsewhere to do it with or to somebody else again, etc. Most of the time they are successful with most people and it's not a problem for them, etc. But, every once in a while, they can get stuck there with somebody for a while and then it becomes a torment for them until that person dies, etc, and this is what had happened with the man with the legion, these demons desperately wanted a release from this man by that point, because they couldn't get him to kill himself, and couldn't kill him, etc. Well, Jesus seeks this man out, knowing full well what was going on with; both that man, and the demons in him by that point, etc. Well, when these demons saw Jesus coming they knew exactly who Jesus was, and that he had full authority to send them all into oblivion if he wanted to, etc, and this is why they entreated him, and practically begged Jesus to send them into the pigs instead, and is why the pigs immediately rushed over the precipice and died, so that these could finally be released and were free to go elsewhere now after that, etc, finallyget there long sought release from this man that they originally targeted (but greatly underestimated, etc). They knew Jesus wasn't going to kill the man, or let them kill the man (something they had been trying to do with the man, or get that man to do for a very, very long time now, but couldn't) so, anyway, that's why they practically begged Jesus to let them go into the pigs nearby, and Jesus allowed them to do that instead of "something else Jesus could have done to them", etc, and it was actually Jesus having compassion on both them (those demon) and the man that those demons were inhabiting, since it was the man that Jesus was after, etc. Anyway, this is the activity/purposes of most demons with most of us, but it can backfire for them if their attempts to make the person dead after it is no longer fun anymore doesn't succeed fully for them, because once they get in a person, they don't have the power to get released from that person until that person dies, etc, which doesn't always happen always, after which they are the ones that are in torment for a while until that person dies, or until someone like Jesus comes along, and they are able to get released another way, etc, which is what happened with this man with the legion.

God Bless.

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Neogaia777 said:

I'm going to try to give you some insight into the activity of most demons, and what they are actually out to try and do with most of us, etc, but that sometimes doesn't go exactly according to plan. Let's take the man with the legion, and why Jesus sent them (those demons inhabiting that man) into the pigs, and why the pigs immediately rushed over the precipice to die for a minute, and why it was actually an act of compassion upon those demons by Jesus? Jesus sought this man out, the man with the legion, and he didn't do this with hardly anyone else, and made quite the journey/trip out of his way to do it, etc. When a demon, or a group of demons, first makes a decision to target somebody, the first thing they do is get inside the person for what they think is going to be for them (at first) somebody that is going to provide them with a lot of very great fun, and much entertainment, at first anyway, etc, but, when the fun stops being fun or entertaining anymore, then they usually try to get that person to off themselves or die so they can then get released from that person, and go elsewhere to do it with or to somebody else again, etc. Most of the time they are successful with most people and it's not a problem for them, etc. But, every once in a while, they can get stuck there with somebody for a while and then it becomes a torment for them until that person dies, etc, and this is what had happened with the man with the legion, these demons desperately wanted a release from this man by that point, because they couldn't get him to kill himself, and couldn't kill him, etc. Well, Jesus seeks this man out, knowing full well what was going on with; both that man, and the demons in him by that point, etc. Well, when these demons saw Jesus coming they knew exactly who Jesus was, and that he had full authority to send them all into oblivion if he wanted to, etc, and this is why they entreated him, and practically begged Jesus to send them into the pigs instead, and is why the pigs immediately rushed over the precipice and died, so that these could finally be released and were free to go elsewhere now after that, etc, finallyget there long sought release from this man that they originally targeted (but greatly underestimated, etc). They knew Jesus wasn't going to kill the man, or let them kill the man (something they had been trying to do with the man, or get that man to do for a very, very long time now, but couldn't) so, anyway, that's why they practically begged Jesus to let them go into the pigs nearby, and Jesus allowed them to do that instead of "something else Jesus could have done to them", etc, and it was actually Jesus having compassion on both them (those demon) and the man that those demons were inhabiting, since it was the man that Jesus was after, etc. Anyway, this is the activity/purposes of most demons with most of us, but it can backfire for them if their attempts to make the person dead after it is no longer fun anymore doesn't succeed fully for them, because once they get in a person, they don't have the power to get released from that person until that person dies, etc, which doesn't always happen always, after which they are the ones that are in torment for a while until that person dies, or until someone like Jesus comes along, and they are able to get released another way, etc, which is what happened with this man with the legion.

God Bless.

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Neogaia777 said:

That's because, at that time, God the Holy Spirit (YHWH in the OT) was bound up inside of Jesus for a time, and could not get released until Jesus died.

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Neogaia777 said:

God the Holy Spirit chose to inhabit Jesus (as was part of the plan) (and the rest of the plan that would follow afterward) until the day Jesus died. When exactly this took place I am not aware of, or cannot say, but it was sometime between Jesus birth (or maybe at or from conception maybe) but most definitely happened by the time of Jesus baptism, and lasted until the day that Jesus died. Until then, he was bound or was restricted to only what he could do through Jesus until that time, but not after that though, etc, after that he had the promise of being able to be in everybody all at the same time, etc. This was the very first time God the Holy Spirit ever chose to do this with anybody, etc. But it was all part of "the plan" until Jesus died. All spirits are temporarily bound when they first choose to enter a man, or a human being, as they become restricted to only what they can do or make happen through/with that person temporarily, etc. This is why many will only try to exert their influence from the outside at first most of the time until it maybe becomes necessary to be on the inside, and then they will try, etc. But they know the rules and risks of trying to get on the inside. Those trying to get on the inside of someone for fun, could all of the sudden find themselves in a temporary torment sometimes, until that person dies.

God Bless.

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Neogaia777 said:

Just exchange the word "bound" for "restricted", because it's basically the same thing either way, ok.

God Bless.

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David Lamb said:

Thanks for replying. I agree that all three persons of the Trinity were involved in our salvation, and in particular, in the life of Jesus while He was on earth. I agree too, that the Holy Spirit was with Him. What I don't find in the bible is your contention that the Holy Spirit was somehow "bound" inside Jesus.

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Neogaia777 said:

The passages I am referring to is controversial as to what they are really about, but they are Matthew 12:29 and Mark 3:27. Most people will say that they were about Satan, but that would then also mean that Jesus was also possessed by/with Satan, which I do not believe, or that his powers/goods/knowledge also came from Satan, which I also don't believe, and Jesus also did not specifically say it was Satan that he was talking about there in those passages either, etc. The fact that it was Satan that was being talked about before that, doesn't really matter, etc. And in the passage in Matthew 12, Jesus actually talks about doing everything he was doing by the Spirit of God before the words about the stong man/spirit/person is mentioned, etc. And that his powers came only from the Holy Spirit of God, and not from Satan, etc.

"The Holy Spirit" became restricted to just only being in Christ at one point, and after that, was restricted to Jesus Christ until he (Jesus) died at the cross, but after that, then became available to being in/with everybody again after that point, etc. Holy Spirit always could be inside of people before that, but just didn't ever choose to before that (because of sin) until Jesus, and then after that, or after Jesus, etc.

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Neogaia777 said:

The passages I am referring to is controversial as to what they are really about, but they are Matthew 12:29 and Mark 3:27. Most people will say that they were about Satan, but that would then also mean that Jesus was also possessed by/with Satan, which I do not believe, or that his powers/goods/knowledge also came from Satan, which I also don't believe, and Jesus also did not specifically say it was Satan that he was talking about there in those passages either, etc. The fact that it was Satan that was being talked about before that, doesn't really matter, etc. And in the passage in Matthew 12, Jesus actually talks about doing everything he was doing by the Spirit of God before the words about the strong man/spirit/person is mentioned, etc. And that his powers came only from the Holy Spirit of God, and not from Satan, etc. If the strong man was Satan, and Jesus was talking about plundering/using Satan's goods, then that would mean that Jesus powers/abilities were coming from Satan, which not only did Jesus say wasn't even ever possible ever, but also that his powers/abilities were not coming from Satan, etc. So Jesus was talking about God the Holy Spirit, or YHWH from the OT, etc.

"The Holy Spirit" became restricted to just only being in Christ at one point, and after that, was restricted to Jesus Christ until he (Jesus) died at the cross, but after that, then became available to being in/with everybody again after that point, etc. Holy Spirit always could be inside of people before that, but just didn't ever choose to before that (because of sin) until Jesus, and then chose to a lot more after that, or after Jesus, but irregardless of sin after that, or after Jesus, etc.

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Neogaia777 said:

This has nothing to do with Satan casting out Satan, or Satan being against himself, and it doesn't even fit the context here, but is just the way it is/works with some lesser demons and with those people that are on the bottom rungs of society sometimes. Satan and some of his higher demons, have another agenda that mainly only applies to people of greater influence, but that doesn't really apply to most of us down here most of the time, etc. For those of us down here, I've just told you what it is mostly about most of the time, etc. And most demons, once they seek to possess a person, cannot get released until that person dies, etc. Some might be at the point of being ready to let go of their people, and some might not yet, but either way, this is the way it works with most of us down here most of the time. Most of the time when they are ready to kill a person, it works flawlessly and without a hangup or a hitch most of the time, but not always, etc. Like the man with the legion for example, etc. Then they become trapped there for a time, etc. If they are at the point of seeking a release, then casting them out should be easy, but maybe not so easy yet if they are not yet ready to let go of that person yet most of the time. But either way, they are commanded/bound to always fully obey Jesus name, etc.

With the woman with the powers of divination, it was a case of her being in an influential position, as many people in places of power/influence listened to her, so there was another purpose there involving her for a time, other than just messing with her and then killing her, etc, but either way, they can be immediately cast out by anyone using Jesus name, etc.

God Bless.

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