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Is This The New Normal?
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Around 2014-2915 ICE arrested a lot of illegals.
ICE Arrests 2,000 'Worst Of The Worst Criminals'
The latest sweep of fugitive immigrants was the fifth major operation by U.S. authorities since 2011.
www.ibtimes.com
They conducted raids at businesses. They arrested people who were violent criminals, gang members and over half arrested were simply here illegally. The photo in the paper sh I we'd them without masks. There were not riots, there were no attacks on tge agents. There was no one shooting at them. Their families were not threatened.
In just January 2025 ICE conducted raids. The vast majority of agents weren't wearing masks and weren't threatened, attacked neither were their families. Here is an article showing a number of photos of of them.
ICE arrests over 20 during NYC raids, including suspected gang leader: Details
Now fast forward. ICE agents have been attacked, threatened, assaulted, and their families have also been threatened.
Todd Lyons, the acting Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), clarified on Monday that ICE agents and officers routinely wear face due to the recently announced increase in threats to federal immigration officials, including to their spouses and family members.
ICE Director Confirms Agents Now Wearing Masks amid 400 Percent Increase in Threats - Tennessee Star
So now you know. If the anarchists, leftists and illegals would have left them and their families alone like they used to, masks would not be needed.
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Around 2014-2915 ICE arrested a lot of illegals.
ICE Arrests 2,000 'Worst Of The Worst Criminals'
The latest sweep of fugitive immigrants was the fifth major operation by U.S. authorities since 2011.
They conducted raids at businesses. They arrested people who were violent criminals, gang members and over half arrested were simply here illegally. The photo in the paper sh I we'd them without masks. There were not riots, there were no attacks on tge agents. There was no one shooting at them. Their families were not threatened.
In just January 2025 ICE conducted raids. The vast majority of agents weren't wearing masks and weren't threatened, attacked neither were their families. Here is an article showing a number of photos of of them.
ICE arrests over 20 during NYC raids, including suspected gang leader: Details
Now fast forward. ICE agents have been attacked, threatened, assaulted, and their families have also been threatened.
Todd Lyons, the acting Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), clarified on Monday that ICE agents and officers routinely wear face due to the recently announced increase in threats to federal immigration officials, including to their spouses and family members.
ICE Director Confirms Agents Now Wearing Masks amid 400 Percent Increase in Threats - Tennessee Star
So now you know. If the anarchists, leftists and illegals would have left them and their families alone like they used to, masks would not be needed.
If American citizens approve of federal agents wearing masks, accompanied by the military, and arresting people without a warrant, it would indicate a shift away from democratic practices toward more authoritarian governance.
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Holy smokes, when are you going to acknowledge your whole warrant shtick is just patently false? LE has ALWAYS been able to arrest without a warrant.
If American citizens are attacking and threatening agents and their families it would indicate a shift away from democratic practices toward a more anarchist state.
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Your suggestion that “democratic practices” are defined by the Democrats is humorous considering that the whole last administration was committing treason with their unelected shadow government.
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I asked when you first made that accusation of ICE going door to door to round people up and compared it to Iran to please support this uncalled-for accusation. You did not post anything to back up the lie, and you are still spreading it.
Just because you don’t like something means it is against the law.
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I am not defending Biden administration,
If Republicans believed the Biden administration was a shadow government, the GOP in the House would have been obligated to impeach President Biden.
The GOP did not act on "Biden shadow government." Instead, voters removed Democrats from power and gave control of the White House, Senate, and House to the GOP.
I hope American voters make a similar decision regarding the GOP in the upcoming midterms and in 2028. Supporters of dictatorial actions should enjoy it while it lasts.
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I am not interested in speaking about Biden. I am pointing out that the Democrats have violated “democratic practices” way more than the right has and has little room to speak about who gets to define that phrase.
And please do not spread lies about who was responsible for Biden and his shadow government. We have already been through this and you have been proved wrong in every way.
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Yes, President Obama prioritized resources to go after illegal immigrants with violent criminal records:
From the artcile:
Of the 2,059 arrested in the sweep, nearly half of them have convictions for serious crimes. Officials said 400 have previous aggravated felony convictions, 58 are known gang members and 89 are convicted sex offenders. Nearly 500 of the arrestees had re-entered the U.S. after having previously been deported by authorities.
A majority of Americans applaud such actions. Targetting any one who looks like an illegal - not so much.
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ICE Agents Interrogate Kids at Baseball Practice — Coach Pushes Back, Nearly Arrested: Report
Youman Wilder, who has coached youth baseball on the West Side for two decades, told West Side Rag that the children — mostly middle and high schoolers — were practicing at the batting cages in Riverside Park when armed agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement approached them.“I go over quickly and the agents are asking the kids inappropriate things like where they are from, their country of origin,” Wilder said. “So I say, ‘whoa, whoa,’ and I tell the officers that their questions are inappropriate, and that I’m going to tell my kids not to answer them.”
“Then they started to talk about cuffing me, and that if the kids were here legally, what do they have to lose by answering,” he said. “I told them that they still have their Fifth and Fourth Amendment rights, and that they don’t have to speak to you or help with any investigation.”
Wilder called the moment a lesson in knowing your rights. “It’s all about civics. If you don’t know your rights, they will trample on them,” he said.
As American as apple pie!
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Why because Iran is and anarchist state? A country where anarchists are running rampant? Like they are in places in the US?
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Which means half were not any of the those terrible people, but just simply illegals living here illegally. Just like some being picked up today. Riots in LA, attacks on agents assassination attempts. Threatening families is how the left operates now and didnt back then.
Marketing a car wash where illegals where just trying to earn a living. The left didnt care. Not a peep, no riots, no assaults, no threats on agents children.
Rhere is NO excuse for these actions. The left didnt care back then. Its time to acknowledge the radicals have taken over the left.
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The article I posted quoted acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, no mind reading necessary.
Though, I can't help but notice you did not provide documentation for your version of events. Will that be forthcoming?
The Politifact article you quoted said: "[Former House sergeant-at-arms Paul] Irving told [Capitol Police Chief Steven] Sund ahead of the riot that he did not want National Guard troops at the Capitol on Jan. 6 because of bad "optics," the Washington Post and the New York Times reported."
Two different people, neither of them Nancy Pelosi, made two different statements, so yeah, we can have it both ways.
In the end, whether or not Trump actually did offer to call in the National Guard depends on whether or not you believe Donald Trump, a man convicted of fraud on multiple occasions, including 34 felony convictions.
-- A2SG, you can do your own math here....
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Do you have evidence for the charge of treason or for the existence of whatever this "shadow government" you seem to believe exists?
-- A2SG, be nice to have that, I think Congress is looking for it....
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