Musk's American Party: A threat or a promise?

Bradskii · Jul 2, 2025

Trump and Musk’s feud blows up again with threats of Doge and deportation

Reignited quarrel centers around Musk’s opposition to the president’s signature tax bill as it moves through Congress

www.theguardian.com

'Musk, a top Republican megadonor, intensified his campaign in recent days with threats that he would form his own “America Party” and target lawmakers in upcoming elections who voted for the bill in 2026 primary elections.'

Is it a real threat? If it comes to pass, what will the effect be on the GOP?

wing2000 · Jul 2, 2025

Musk would only have to target a half a dozen swing races or so to throw congress to the opposing party next year. And if this BBB passes, the task will be easy. As for starting a party? I don't see it happening.

hedrick · Jul 2, 2025

Bradskii said:
Trump and Musk’s feud blows up again with threats of Doge and deportation

Reignited quarrel centers around Musk’s opposition to the president’s signature tax bill as it moves through Congress

www.theguardian.com

'Musk, a top Republican megadonor, intensified his campaign in recent days with threats that he would form his own “America Party” and target lawmakers in upcoming elections who voted for the bill in 2026 primary elections.'

Is it a real threat? If it comes to pass, what will the effect be on the GOP?

It's pretty clear that a lot of Republican Senators knew the bill was a bad, but were afraid that if they voted against it, Trump would promote someone more MAGA in a primary fight. If Musk really does this, it could stiffen the spine for the remaining Republicans who know right from wrong but are afraid to vote for the right.

Jerry N. · Jul 2, 2025

I wouldn’t bet on anything Musk might do. His mind works in unusual ways. He worked hard to reduce spending and cut waste, and he felt betrayed by a bill that added more spending and waste. Musk is used to just telling people what to do, and they try to do it. Trump has to work with Congress who can’t be trusted and have as many agendas as people. I don’t think Musk understood how it works. Is BBB what trump really wanted, or is he willing to take what he can get and make the most of it? Trump talks in superlatives.

Nithavela · Jul 2, 2025

Aww, and here I thought donald and elon had made up.

durangodawood · Jul 2, 2025

Bradskii said:
Is it a real threat? If it comes to pass, what will the effect be on the GOP?

1. Im highly skeptical of Elon following through on this. He's a lot of talk. Yes he does a lot of things too. But these days his talk is bigger.

2. IF he does it, yes its a threat - not to take any power, but as a spoiler, most likely to the detriment of the R party.

ThatRobGuy · Jul 2, 2025

durangodawood said:
2. IF he does it, yes its a threat - not to take any power, but as a spoiler, most likely to the detriment of the R party.

I mentioned the last time a 3rd party candidate was able to make a dent was Ross Perot, and that's because he was super rich and could buy access to the kinds of campaign activities and press that most people would need to fundraise or be "connected" in order to get

(Perot bought prime time major network timeslots to do what were, in essence, infomercials for his campaign.)

I could see Elon doing something like that for whichever candidate wanted to run for his new party. Heck, the guy spent $40B to buy a social media platform because he didn't like having his posts blocked...so this kind of endeavor certainly wouldn't be his most impulsive purchase by any means.

As far as the vote splitting, that would depend on who he "anointed" to be the "chosen one" to be the candidate for his new party.

Andrew Yang has already reached out to Elon to collaborate on this "new party" idea.

If, in 2028...

We saw a Gavin Newsom vs. Andrew Yang vs. JD Vance election showdown... I don't know that anyone can accurately speculate who an Andrew Yang type person would steal more votes from.

At the very least, he's got the money to get whoever his candidate is significant airtime and on the debate stage, and that's a sizeable portion of the battle.

Imagine if Ross Perot had been 20 times richer than he already was, and owned something as powerful as his own social media platform

durangodawood · Jul 3, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
I mentioned the last time a 3rd party candidate was able to make a dent was Ross Perot, and that's because he was super rich and could buy access to the kinds of campaign activities and press that most people would need to fundraise or be "connected" in order to get

(Perot bought prime time major network timeslots to do what were, in essence, infomercials for his campaign.)

I could see Elon doing something like that for whichever candidate wanted to run for his new party. Heck, the guy spent $40B to buy a social media platform because he didn't like having his posts blocked...so this kind of endeavor certainly wouldn't be his most impulsive purchase by any means.

As far as the vote splitting, that would depend on who he "anointed" to be the "chosen one" to be the candidate for his new party.

Andrew Yang has already reached out to Elon to collaborate on this "new party" idea.

If, in 2028...

We saw a Gavin Newsom vs. Andrew Yang vs. JD Vance election showdown... I don't know that anyone can accurately speculate who an Andrew Yang type person would steal more votes from.

At the very least, he's got the money to get whoever his candidate is significant airtime and on the debate stage, and that's a sizeable portion of the battle.

Imagine if Ross Perot had been 20 times richer than he already was, and owned something as powerful as his own social media platform

As dogemaster, Musk is toxic to Ds forseeably. And theres no way hed be a silent partner to Wang. Hes got to have his say, and then some.

BCP1928 · Jul 3, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
I mentioned the last time a 3rd party candidate was able to make a dent was Ross Perot, and that's because he was super rich and could buy access to the kinds of campaign activities and press that most people would need to fundraise or be "connected" in order to get

(Perot bought prime time major network timeslots to do what were, in essence, infomercials for his campaign.)

I could see Elon doing something like that for whichever candidate wanted to run for his new party. Heck, the guy spent $40B to buy a social media platform because he didn't like having his posts blocked...so this kind of endeavor certainly wouldn't be his most impulsive purchase by any means.

As far as the vote splitting, that would depend on who he "anointed" to be the "chosen one" to be the candidate for his new party.

Andrew Yang has already reached out to Elon to collaborate on this "new party" idea.

If, in 2028...

We saw a Gavin Newsom vs. Andrew Yang vs. JD Vance election showdown... I don't know that anyone can accurately speculate who an Andrew Yang type person would steal more votes from.

At the very least, he's got the money to get whoever his candidate is significant airtime and on the debate stage, and that's a sizeable portion of the battle.

Imagine if Ross Perot had been 20 times richer than he already was, and owned something as powerful as his own social media platform

If Musk, the neoliberal globalist, wants to build a "better" Republican party we could certainly use one. At least he would be out in the open about his agenda. It would be easier then to create a real labor party from the Democratic wreckage.

Landon Caeli · Jul 6, 2025

How much suffering is Musk willing to drag the country through to fix the national debt of all the previous administration's? And who would vote for a party platform based on that initiative alone? Not me.

...We have to take steps in that direction, not giant leaps if that's what he's thinking.

Landon Caeli · Jul 6, 2025

BCP1928 said:
If Musk, the neoliberal globalist, wants to build a "better" Republican party we could certainly use one. At least he would be out in the open about his agenda. It would be easier then to create a real labor party from the Democratic wreckage.

Well, if the Republicans split in two, then the democratic party has to as well, in an equality based society, or it's not fair.

The Bill Mahr/ Fetterman types vs. the squad/ Mamdami types would be a reasonable division.

Landon Caeli · Jul 6, 2025

Nithavela said:
Aww, and here I thought donald and elon had made up.

American politics isn't a soap opera, bruh! These are real world issues, with real world consequences!

Nithavela · Jul 6, 2025

Landon Caeli said:
American politics isn't a soap opera

Could have fooled me.

durangodawood · Jul 6, 2025

Canuckster said:
Elon can pull more voters from the left than from the right, especially if he keeps pushing for more solar panels like he's been aggressively doing leading up to this recent announcement. Also, Dems have moved so far left that many voters on the left are centrists by comparison. But because of their media-fueled Trump Derangement Syndrome, they still vote Dems. But now with Elon, a former Dem supporter, they can feel comfortable voting for a centrist who doesn't like Trump and pushes their leftist environmental agenda. If this turns out to be the case, maybe there is some truth to those who say Trump and Elon are still working together to undermine the left. And they’ll use the old leftist media to help.

I guess Elon decided to focus on time travel rather than Mars colonization and sent you back to the Biden era.

In this timeline, Dogemaster Musk has burned every bridge with the left.

Landon Caeli · Jul 6, 2025

durangodawood said:
In this timeline, Dogemaster Musk has burned every bridge with the left.

...And on his way to possibly burning some new ones?

Canuckster · Jul 6, 2025

durangodawood said:
Plus a positive mental health diagnosis!

Its a good day to be me.

So you felt you needed to get one. Congrats on the positive results.

durangodawood · Jul 6, 2025

Canuckster said:
So you felt you needed to get one. Congrats on the positive results.

Hey dont be talking back to an executor!

Canuckster · Jul 6, 2025

durangodawood said:
Hey dont be talking back to an executor!

Hey, when you say Musk has burned every bridge with the left then you assume to speak for all leftists. That’s one who assumes position of executor.

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