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AND WHAT IS 1 THESS 4:13-17 SAYINF FOR TODAY /

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Dan Perez said:
And I see 3 resurrections in 1 Thess 4:13-16 3 resurrections !

How mant doe you see ?

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That would be three mentions of the same resurrection at the end of time.
 
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Clare73 said:
That would be three mentions of the same resurrection at the end of time.
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And in 1 Thess 4:13 I see One !

And in 1 Thess 4:14 I see and other one making two !

And in 1 Thess 4:15 I see number three .

And in 1 Thess 4:16 I see number four .

And in 1 Thess 4:17 I see number five

And I believe that number # 13 DOES have name !!

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Dan Perez said:
AND what verse do you see one resurrection in 1 Thess 13-17 ?

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13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I see the resurrection in verse 16.
 
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Hoping2 said:
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I see the resurrection in verse 16.
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And you did pinpoint One in verse 16 !!

What does verse 13 than as the Greek word NOT / ME , meaning NOTTT having hope , than mean ?

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Dan Perez said:
And you did pinpoint One in verse 16 !!
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Amen.
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What does verse 13 than as the Greek word NOT / ME , meaning NOTTT having hope , than mean ?
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As the context is that the Thessalonians were afraid those in Christ who had died, would not be raised with those still alive at Jesus' return; verse 13's "those without hope" are the unconverted.
Or as Paul calls them in verse 12, "them that are without". (not in the church)
 
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Hoping2 said:
Amen.

As the context is that the Thessalonians were afraid those in Christ who had died, would not be raised with those still alive at Jesus' return; verse 13's "those without hope" are the unconverted.
Or as Paul calls them in verse 12, "them that are without". (not in the church)
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And I am holding back just a little on 1 Thess 4:13 , by asking as to what does ( not in church ) means ??

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Dan Perez said:
And I am holding back just a little on 1 Thess 4:13 , by asking as to what does ( not in church ) means ??

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It means heathens, unconverted, unregenerated, unrepentant.
NOT in the church.
They are the ones without hope of eternal life.
 
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Hoping2 said:
It means heathens, unconverted, unregenerated, unrepentant.
NOT in the church.
They are the ones without hope of eternal life.
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And I believe that in 1 Thess 4:13 and 14 mesh together and are in what Paul , 2 Cor 12:4 calls PARADISE and God

though Jesus bring with Him .

Then verse 15 then the surviving ones unto the the coming of the Lord , by no means may precede the ones having

been fallen asleep

Then in verse 16 , and nthe dead in Christ will RAISE up First .

Then in verse 17 , then we the living ones , , the surviving ones will be CAUGHT away at the same time with them

in the Clouds for a meeting of the Lord into the AIR , as so will at all times be with the Lord ,

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Dan Perez said:
And I believe that in 1 Thess 4:13 and 14 mesh together and are in what Paul , 2 Cor 12:4 calls PARADISE and God

though Jesus bring with Him .

Then verse 15 then the surviving ones unto the the coming of the Lord , by no means may precede the ones having

been fallen asleep

Then in verse 16 , and nthe dead in Christ will RAISE up First .

Then in verse 17 , then we the living ones , , the surviving ones will be CAUGHT away at the same time with them

in the Clouds for a meeting of the Lord into the AIR , as so will at all times be with the Lord ,

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It sure gives us good reason to remain faithful to God, until then.
 
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