United States Supreme Court ruling on parents rights and LGBTQ books

Vambram · Jun 27, 2025

I praise God for this very good decision and ruling that the SCOTUS did earlier today!!!

Parent groups, religious liberty experts hail SCOTUS upholding parents rights in LGBTQ books case

Parent groups and legal experts applauded the Supreme Court's decision in Mahmoud v Taylor as a victory for the rights of religious parents in public schools.

www.foxnews.com

Do y'all agree with the Supreme Court of the United States of America?

PloverWing · Jun 27, 2025

Vambram said:
Do y'all agree with the Supreme Court of the United States of America?

I think I probably do, yes. I don't agree with the commentary in the Fox News article, but the legal decision is probably the right one. It's in the same spirit as allowing Jehovah's Witnesses to opt out of saying the Pledge and allowing Amish kids to opt out of high school. Some families feel strongly about this, on religious grounds, and I think we can accommodate them without violating the Constitution.

Hentenza · Jun 28, 2025

Vambram said:
I praise God for this very good decision and ruling that the SCOTUS did earlier today!!!

Parent groups, religious liberty experts hail SCOTUS upholding parents rights in LGBTQ books case

Parent groups and legal experts applauded the Supreme Court's decision in Mahmoud v Taylor as a victory for the rights of religious parents in public schools.

www.foxnews.com

Do y'all agree with the Supreme Court of the United States of America?

Whole heartily yes. Children should not be pawns of activism and is the parents purview to teach their children morality. Schools should only be places of subject learning such as math, writing, reading, science, etc.

rambot · Jun 28, 2025

I disagree.

Christian children learning less about gay is not the answer.

If you are scared about your child reading a book about some child with two dads, you need to give your head a rattle and listen to the acorn bashing around in that vessel.

You make it sound like gays don't even deserve basic empathy feom your children.

Hentenza · Jun 28, 2025

rambot said:
I disagree.

Christian children learning less about gay is not the answer.

If you are scared about your child reading a book about some child with two dads, you need to give your head a rattle and listen to the acorn bashing around in that vessel.

You make it sound like gays don't even deserve basic empathy feom your children.

Its the parents prerogative not the school system. If schools would spend more time teaching subject studies maybe our children would be better educated.

BCP1928 · Jun 28, 2025

Hentenza said:
Its the parents prerogative not the school system. If schools would spend more time teaching subject studies maybe our children would be better educated.

How much time is that? How much time during the typical school day is spent teaching LGBT? What. exactly is being taught? Actual excerpts from curriculum standards would be useful here.

Hentenza · Jun 28, 2025

BCP1928 said:
How much time is that? How much time during the typical school day is spent teaching LGBT? What. exactly is being taught? Actual excerpts from curriculum standards would be useful here.

The time is irrelevant. It is the parent‘s prerogative not the school. Also, Sotomayor comments falls under the either/or fallacy. I raised my kids to respect all including those that are different and many parents do the same.

BCP1928 · Jun 28, 2025

Hentenza said:
The time is irrelevant. It is the parent‘s prerogative not the school. Also, Sotomayor comments falls under the either/or fallacy. I raised my kids to respect all including those that are different and many parents do the same.

You said that the time spent teach LGBT could be better used, and I just wondered how much time that was. It would be a useful thing to know how much time would become available to put to better use.

Hentenza · Jun 28, 2025

BCP1928 said:
You said that the time spent teach LGBT could be better used, and I just wondered how much time that was. It would be a useful thing to know how much time would become available to put to better use.

Any amount of time would be useful.

BCP1928 · Jun 28, 2025

Hentenza said:
Any amount of time would be useful.

So you don't really know how much tiem is spent on it or what is actually being taught. Got it.

Always in His Presence · Jun 28, 2025

100% support the ruling - Parental Rights is paramount in raising children.

Hentenza · Jun 28, 2025

BCP1928 said:
So you don't really know how much tiem is spent on it or what is actually being taught. Got it.

lol Ok let’s take a stab at it. Let’s say for the sake of argument that the school spends 15 minutes a day teaching morality and ethics including lgtbq stuff. The average school year in the US is 180 days. That then would average to about 45 hours of additional subject instruction. That’s substantial.

Pommer · Jun 28, 2025

Vambram said:
I praise God for this very good decision and ruling that the SCOTUS did earlier today!!!

Parent groups, religious liberty experts hail SCOTUS upholding parents rights in LGBTQ books case

Parent groups and legal experts applauded the Supreme Court's decision in Mahmoud v Taylor as a victory for the rights of religious parents in public schools.

www.foxnews.com

Do y'all agree with the Supreme Court of the United States of America?

The school district has to allow for an “opt-out”.
The SD doesn’t have to pull the books/materials.
It’s an “okay” ruling, though one can envision it getting messy.

BCP1928 · Jun 28, 2025

Hentenza said:
lol Ok let’s take a stab at it. Let’s say for the sake of argument that the school spends 15 minutes a day teaching morality and ethics including lgtbq stuff. The average school year in the US is 180 days. That then would average to about 45 hours of additional subject instruction. That’s substantial.

That's pretty hypothical. What morality and ethics do you suppose they are teaching besides the LGBT "stuff" which you can't describe?
LGBT properly belongs in sex ed classes, anyway.

2PhiloVoid · Jun 28, 2025

Vambram said:
I praise God for this very good decision and ruling that the SCOTUS did earlier today!!!

Parent groups, religious liberty experts hail SCOTUS upholding parents rights in LGBTQ books case

Parent groups and legal experts applauded the Supreme Court's decision in Mahmoud v Taylor as a victory for the rights of religious parents in public schools.

www.foxnews.com

Do y'all agree with the Supreme Court of the United States of America?

It's all about interpretation, whether of the Constitution of the United States, the Bible, or of our own identities.

That, and the fact that as the old proverb says, "A man (or child) convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

Hentenza · Jun 28, 2025

BCP1928 said:
That's pretty hypothical.

Do you have better numbers?

BCP1928 said:
What morality and ethics do you suppose they are teaching besides the LGBT "stuff" which you can't describe?

I have 3 granddaughters that used to live with me for about 4 years. My daughter and her exhusband were having a custody battle. He lived in the San Leandro are in California and won temporary custody for a bit. When they left Texas their views of politics and lgtbq stuff was moderate. When they returned to live with my daughter 3 years later their views had been radicalized. One of my granddaughters even doubted her sexuality. Once they returned to school in Texas (high school) their views moved back to moderate and the granddaughter that doubted her sexuality is now engaged to be married to a man. Kids fragile and impressionable minds should only be exposed to course work. The parents are responsible for teaching morality and ethics.

BCP1928 said:
LGBT properly belongs in sex ed classes, anyway.

Schools don’t teach sex ed (rather should not) in elementary school so the point is moot.

bèlla · Jun 28, 2025

rambot said:
.Christian children learning less about gay is not the answer.

It isn’t society’s responsibility to rear your children and you decide what’s acceptable within your home as long as it isn’t illegal.

rambot said:
If you are scared about your child reading a book about some child with two dads, you need to give your head a rattle and listen to the acorn bashing around in that vessel.

Why would I want to give a child a book about homosexuality? What use does it have for a minor let alone someone younger? If others want to do the same they’re free to do so.

rambot said:
You make it sound like gays don't even deserve basic empathy feom your children.

It has nothing to do with empathy. There are age appropriate subjects and discussions and that isn’t a decision we can make for someone else.

~bella

rjs330 · Jun 28, 2025

rambot said:
I disagree.

Christian children learning less about gay is not the answer.

If you are scared about your child reading a book about some child with two dads, you need to give your head a rattle and listen to the acorn bashing around in that vessel.

You make it sound like gays don't even deserve basic empathy feom your children.

Who said that? Has anyone stated their children shouldn't have empathy or they should hate gays or anything of the sort?

The world is constantly trying influence your children with all kinds if things that are contrary to scriptural values. This is just one instance of trying to influence your kids to believe there is nothing wrong with it or even to celebrate it as wonderful and beautiful.

That's the issue. The issue is not about being kind to people who are lost. It is about indoctrinating your kids to believe that it is a wonderful thing.

As parents we are to be wiser than that. Everyone knows lgbtq exists. How can we not know with the multitude of celebratory days, weeks and months of celebrating. The flags, in media etc.

We just dont need the kids indoctrinated IN SCHOOL that its a fantastic and celebratory thing and we all need to embrace it with a smile.

Parents should be able to opt out of that indoctrination. Or quite frankly any education they are opposed to that attack the values they are trying to instill into their kids.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Jun 28, 2025

Hentenza said:
Do you have better numbers?

I have 3 granddaughters that used to live with me for about 4 years. My daughter and her exhusband were having a custody battle. He lived in the San Leandro are in California and won temporary custody for a bit. When they left Texas their views of politics and lgtbq stuff was moderate. When they returned to live with my daughter 3 years later their views had been radicalized. One of my granddaughters even doubted her sexuality. Once they returned to school in Texas (high school) their views moved back to moderate and the granddaughter that doubted her sexuality is now engaged to be married to a man. Kids fragile and impressionable minds should only be exposed to course work. The parents are responsible for teaching morality and ethics.

Schools don’t teach sex ed (rather should not) in elementary school so the point is moot.

I live in California. I don't buy your grandchildren were radicalized in LGBT. Gay people are more excepted in California. I have nieces and nephews , that go to schools in California. And they have not been radicalized in LGBT. None of them are confused about being not gay. I do have family in Texas. And they aren't very gay friendly at all. I have a family member that lives in Kentucky. And she thought she was gay. But she wasn't. They do talk about sex education in six grade. But parents have to sign a permission slip.

Hentenza · Jun 28, 2025

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
I live in California. I don't buy your grandchildren were radicalized in LGBT. Gay people are more excepted in California. I have nieces and nephews , that go to schools in California. And they have not been radicalized in LGBT. None of them are confused about being not gay. I do have family in Texas. And they aren't very gay friendly at all. I have a family member that lives in Kentucky. And she thought she was gay. But she wasn't. They do talk about sex education in six grade. But parents have to sign a permission slip.

I know what happened to my granddaughters so what you think is of no consequence. I raised my children to respect all people including those that are considered different. This is my purview as a parent not the school district.

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