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Sanctuary Sunday - we are all children of God and we need to be inclusive...

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Well, ARE we all the children of God? And what does it mean to be inclusive? The sermon this morning IMO manipulated these words to guilt-trip us into facilitating migration. In the current context this is NOT the migration referenced in the bible, of individuals or family groups, but mass, demographic-changing migration of the 21st century.
Romans 8: The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. (NIV)
John 6: …Then they inquired, “What must we do to perform the works of God?” 29 Jesus replied, "The work of God is this: to believe in the One He has sent"
So much of the current hierarchical instruction for weekly preaching clearly downgrades the work of Christ. In "doing justice", we fail to do justice to Christ.
I raised some issues with the preacher. Why are we not prioritising the weak and vulnerable? Why not go to the UN camps and process the women and children, those definitely victims of cruelty and persecution? Why fixate on the boat crossings, with undocumented young males, privileged in that they can finance people smugglers?
Then there is the issue of Salvation and redemption, which for Jehovah God is always His initiative, not ours, nor our works, which are always a response. You can't apply Redemption teaching to those forcing their way in - again we should be going to where the suffering is.
 
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There are only two families recognized by Jesus:
Matthew 13:37-43 (KJV)
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Only two families!
In Genesis 1-3 is the record of the choice Adam and Eve made which to be children of. They chose Satan, though deceived. Jesus came to teach the benefits of our Father God family of righteousness, providing light for mankind. His children are given power to resist the lies of the evil 'father' Satan. There is no New Testament commandment to adopt, cater to, yield to, children of Satan who choose to be lawbreakers of any nation. Laws of nations are set to equip governments to establish and maintain peaceable living conditions for the lovers of peace and lawful obedience to societal rules/regulations, laws, and established populace agreement on local populations.

Evil people are drawn to darkness, lawlessness, offensives, invasions of peaceable societies, robbers of their treasures, etc.
 
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Well, ARE we all the children of God? And what does it mean to be inclusive? The sermon this morning IMO manipulated these words to guilt-trip us into facilitating migration. In the current context this is NOT the migration referenced in the bible, of individuals or family groups, but mass, demographic-changing migration of the 21st century.
Romans 8: The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. (NIV)
John 6: …Then they inquired, “What must we do to perform the works of God?” 29 Jesus replied, "The work of God is this: to believe in the One He has sent"
So much of the current hierarchical instruction for weekly preaching clearly downgrades the work of Christ. In "doing justice", we fail to do justice to Christ.
I raised some issues with the preacher. Why are we not prioritising the weak and vulnerable? Why not go to the UN camps and process the women and children, those definitely victims of cruelty and persecution? Why fixate on the boat crossings, with undocumented young males, privileged in that they can finance people smugglers?
Then there is the issue of Salvation and redemption, which for Jehovah God is always His initiative, not ours, nor our works, which are always a response. You can't apply Redemption teaching to those forcing their way in - again we should be going to where the suffering is.
We are not all God's children.
(John 1:12; 11:52
And
John 8:42
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
 
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I raised some issues with the preacher. Why are we not prioritising the weak and vulnerable? Why not go to the UN camps and process the women and children, those definitely victims of cruelty and persecution? Why fixate on the boat crossings, with undocumented young males, privileged in that they can finance people smugglers?
Then there is the issue of Salvation and redemption, which for Jehovah God is always His initiative, not ours, nor our works, which are always a response. You can't apply Redemption teaching to those forcing their way in - again we should be going to where the suffering is.
A couple short lines from teenage years.
"Put up or shut up."
"Put your money where your mouth is."

Former US President Barack Obama has challenged "woke" culture telling young people: "The world is messy."
He made the comments at the Obama Foundation's annual summit in Chicago on Tuesday.
Mr Obama said that calling people out on social media did not bring about change, and that change was complex.
"Woke" is described as being alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice, along with being aware of what's going on in the community.
Mr Obama told the audience: "I get a sense among certain young people on social media that the way of making change is to be as judgemental as possible about other people.
"If I tweet or hashtag about how you didn't do something right or used the wrong verb, then I can sit back and feel pretty good about myself because 'Man did you see how woke I was? I called you out!'"

"That's enough," he said. "If all you're doing is casting stones, you are probably not going to get that far."
Mr Obama added that "people who do really good stuff have flaws".
 
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