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Veep JD Vance drops in to Los Angeles to spread misinformation about downtown unrest, call Sen. Padilla 'José' in mistaken[?] reference to terrorist

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Forced to back up his boss' decision to needlessly send National Guard troops and Marines to Los Angeles, Vance utters fantastic false claims about recent events.

JD Vance refers to Sen. Alex Padilla as 'José Padilla' in remarks blasting Democrats during L.A. visit

"What I see here today is the great tragedy, when a mayor and a governor encourages their citizens to harass and endanger the lives of our police officers and our law enforcement officers. It's heartbreaking to see, and thank God we've got great people who are willing to persevere despite it," Vance said.

[That did not happen.]

“I was hoping José Padilla would be here to ask a question. But, unfortunately, I guess he decided not to show up because there wasn’t the theater, and that’s all it is,” Vance said.

When asked why he referred to the senator as "José Padilla," despite his first name being Alejandro ['Alex'], Taylor Van Kirk — a spokesperson for Vance — said "he must have mixed up two people who have broken the law." Van Kirk did not elaborate.

In 2007, a jury convicted U.S. citizen José Padilla on charges of supporting al Qaeda after he was initially accused of planning to carry out a "dirty bomb" attack in the U.S. He was sentenced to more than 17 years in prison; it was later increased to 21 years.

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Vance also alluded to protestors "capturing" and assaulting law enforcement.

Fact checking Vice President Vance's claim that officers "were captured and beaten by violent mobs"

In a press conference, Vice President Vance said that "there were law enforcement officers who were being captured and beaten by violent mobs, egged on by Gavin Newsom and other officials." LAPD, LASD, the FBI and the CHP officials could not point to any specific examples of law enforcement officers being captured and beaten.

[There are certainly arrests for assaulting police. Gavin Newsom did not egg anyone on to capture and beat law enforcement.]
[That local news was literally what I watched last night. Hat tip to Mike Rogers at 'the Desk'. Usually he's showing car crashes, police stand-offs and high speed police chases, but here he uses his quick connections to all the local law enforcement agencies to get statements that nothing like that happened.]

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Mayor Bass: "How dare you say that city officials encourage violence? We kept the peace. You know that the federal officials that were here protected a federal building, they were not involved in crowd control. Crowd control was handled most aptly by the Los Angeles Police Department, the sheriff's department and local law enforcement," she said.

[If anything, local law enforcement pushed crowds away from the federal troops so that there was no chance for them to come into conflict. The federal troops have not been needed and served as an additional complicating factor on the situation.]

Newsom noted that Vance presides over the Senate and was a senator previously, so he should know Padilla's name. On social media he indicated it was 'not an accident'. Official statements encouraged Vance to tour the fire-ravaged sections of the city and work with the president to provide emergency aid that the latter appears unwilling to allow.
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Vance is literally and falsely painting elected officials of the opposing political party as violent extremists and terrorists.

Not 'leftists' or 'protestors' or 'rioters', but the mayor, senator, governor 'and other officials'.
 

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The Vice President did not spread misinformation. He said what the governor and the LA mayor refuse to accept and believe what is true.
 
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He said what the governor and the LA mayor refuse to accept and believe what is true.
The governor and mayor refuse to accept that they incited rioters to endanger the lives of police?
 
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When asked why he referred to the senator as "José Padilla," despite his first name being Alejandro ['Alex'], Taylor Van Kirk — a spokesperson for Vance — said "he must have mixed up two people who have broken the law." Van Kirk did not elaborate.
lol, that’s actually a pretty good zinger. Doubly so if the setup/bait was deliberate.
 
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Homeland Security will now require any legislators who want to attend press briefings will have to give 72 hours' notice--obviously to give the department three days to clean up their act first.

Sen. Padilla was within his rights, and did the right thing. The press is being threatened, sued, barred from briefings because their employer still used "Gulf of Mexico," etc.

Law firms are threatened with loss of business if they defend the Constitution by challenging illegal EO's in court.

And so, under normal circumstances, legislators would not have to gain information that Homeland Security obviously wants to keep under the radar, but these are not normal circumstances, and the defenders of citizens' "right to know" are being skewered.

Thank you, Senator Padilla. VP Vance, when you leave LA, bring the unneeded, disruptive National Guard with you.
 
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The governor and mayor refuse to accept that they incited rioters to endanger the lives of police?
The LA riots. The violence. It was all planned to go south by political leaders, said a Southern California Sheriff.

Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said the savagery and devastation that broke out in neighboring Los Angeles would have had a zero chance of happening in his area.

“We know how to stop these,” Bianco told The Daily Wire. “I’m not going to criticize other law enforcement leaders, but it was not handled correctly. I do not believe that the leaders of law enforcement were not impacted by politics because I know they know how to end this. I know they know how to make it go away, and it was not done.”

“I will tell you this, that would never happen in Riverside County because there would never be a mayor standing in front of a news camera blaming law enforcement for anything or encouraging people to come down and protest while riots were happening while the police chief is standing right next to her. That would never, ever happen here,” Bianco said. “This is happening in Los Angeles County and possibly other places because it’s political. It’s because of the people making the decisions.”

Protesters have caused chaos in Los Angeles, assaulting law enforcement, destroying property, and setting cars on fire as they attempt to prevent ICE agents from doing their jobs and arresting criminal illegal aliens.

 
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Homeland Security will now require any legislators who want to attend press briefings will have to give 72 hours' notice--obviously to give the department three days to clean up their act first.

Sen. Padilla was within his rights, and did the right thing. The press is being threatened, sued, barred from briefings because their employer still used "Gulf of Mexico," etc.

Law firms are threatened with loss of business if they defend the Constitution by challenging illegal EO's in court.

And so, under normal circumstances, legislators would not have to gain information that Homeland Security obviously wants to keep under the radar, but these are not normal circumstances, and the defenders of citizens' "right to know" are being skewered.

Thank you, Senator Padilla. VP Vance, when you leave LA, bring the unneeded, disruptive National Guard with you.
Sounds like it's gone from Homeland Security and ICE should keep a low profile instead of theater that incites riots, to them keeping a low profile is sinister.
 
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The LA riots. The violence. It was all planned to go south by political leaders, said a Southern California Sheriff.

You found a MAGA sheriff that aligns with your views.

Say, what excuse do you have for Vance intentionally calling a former colleague by a different name -- a name that belong to a convicted criminal?
 
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You found a MAGA sheriff that aligns with your views.

Say, what excuse do you have for Vance intentionally calling a former colleague by a different name -- a name that belong to a convicted criminal?
Let he who has never called someone by the wrong name cast the first stone.
 
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Let he who has never called someone by the wrong name cast the first stone.
What do we do when we offend? We apologize. We don't say we must have gotten two criminals confused.
 
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The LA riots. The violence. It was all planned to go south by political leaders, said a Southern California Sheriff.

Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said
I don't see that the opinion of an ex-Oath Keeper from a different county has much merit.

I'm in the county, and during the worst of it, mayor Bass was on the news each day with a consistent message.
 
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Forced to back up his boss' decision to needlessly send National Guard troops and Marines to Los Angeles, Vance utters fantastic false claims about recent events.
A totally uniformed analysis.
 
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According to your own written OP, Vance didn't say that, Taylor Van Kirk did.
That's Vance's spokesman. That's a statement of the office of the Vice President.
Has Vance apologized?
 
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That's Vance's spokesman. That's a statement of the office of the Vice President.
Has Vance apologized?
Politicians trash other politicians on the opposing party all the time, and virtually never apologize for it. Why demand something from Vance that virtually no other politician has ever offered? I bet that Padilla himself has trashed another politician and never apologized for it.
 
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Politicians trash
We're not talking about trash, we're talking about a mistaken first name.
No one is forcing you to die on this hill where all mistakes must be played to the hilt and never acknowledged.
 
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We're not talking about trash, we're talking about a mistaken first name.
Quit moving the goalpost. I'm responding to the complaint about what Vance's spokesperson said against Padilla. If you want to go back to Vance making a minor mistake - as you call it, that we all have made, that's not something that merits offence or outrage.
 
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The Vice President did not spread misinformation.
He said at least one thing that was objectively untrue - unless you know of any instances of rioters "capturing" police officers in LA?
 
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