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Welcome to the wonderful world of government. I'm not the one whining. You are. I haven't whined a single time about Real ID not proving citizenship or e-verify not being reliable. You guys are the ones continually whining about people having to verify their identity tity when being picked up in an ILLEGAL ALIEN raid.
Thats something else entirely. You so desperately want the government to go above and beyond to verify someone is a violent criminal before deporting them, which can take months or even years for the process to work.its way out, but then turn around and whine about the government wanting to verify citizenship that happens to take a couple of hours.
Not above and beyond, just regular due process which all too often does take too much time. One of the reasons it takes too long is that there simply aren't enough immigration judges. If the government is deporting someone for being a violent criminal, then, yes, they have to have sufficient evidence of that and they have to allow the person to defend themself and answer their accusers - should they contest their arrest, detention and/or deportation/incarceration.
Yup. An expert for sure. Studied it for years and almost became an immigration attorney for the gubment.
That may be, but I was told that I needed it to prove I was a citizen, that a passport wouldn't do it, Now, those clerks were wrong, and that makes my point. If we are supposed to be able to prove our citizenship on demand and on the spot or risk being cuffed and roughed up we're in a bad spot.
Which part of the due process I described is either above or beyond what the immigration law requires that is not basic constitutional rights?
They’ve been acting completely above the law and unaccountable to anyone. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if they reject someone’s passport and arrest them anyway.
But of all the arrests they've made, how many examples do we have of them rejecting positive identifications, even Real IDs? What is the percentage of actual incidents?
Dozens we know about. It seems to be a routine procedure. Here is a recent example:
www.cbsnews.com
Bad example.Dozens we know about. It seems to be a routine procedure. Here is a recent example:
Video allegedly shows ICE agents detaining Hispanic U.S. citizen on Long Island
Video allegedly shows ICE agents taking a Hispanic U.S. citizen into custody in Nassau County.
Only when a the stop is made for some real-sounding reason. You can't just flag people down arbitrarily and demand they prove their citizenship on the spot. Or maybe you can, now.
I don’t think it was a mistake to begin with because the article describes the veteran immediately presenting his ID when they entered the premises, and that’s when they refused to look at it. Standard operating procedure on a sting operation is to secure all suspects first, then collect information. So I think the article is just focused on intentionally misrepresenting the facts of the situation because as we all know the media are nothing but a bunch of liars these days. You don’t start checking IDs as soon as you walk in the door when you’re expecting to make multiple arrests of multiple suspects. According to the article is doesn’t appear that the veteran was actually taken into custody otherwise the author and the mayor would’ve most definitely paraded that information in the article. They’re both simply misrepresenting the facts in order to push their agenda because they’re both liars who want to distort the truth to gain support for their cause.
Okay, if I'm mistaken, exactly what is the due process that should be followed when picking up an illegal alien and deporting them?
