Two MN Dem Pols + Spouses Shot in Targeted Shooting

Hans Blaster · Jun 17, 2025

Chesterton said:
I have no idea what that ostrich stuff is about, but you should address the post and not the poster.

This series of posts would not be continuing if one poster (you) would stop ignoring the obvious.

Chesterton said:
Anyway, I've seen many links which indicate the guy claimed to be Christian (which is true of most Americans)

Not "most", a majority (about 60-70%). He's some kind of Christian (talks too much about Jesus to be interesting), but I don't know which one, nor care that much.

Chesterton said:
and that he's opposed to abortion (which is almost true of most Americans, depending on which survey you read).

Nope. Around 60% of Americans favor access for early term abortion.

Chesterton said:
And this smacks of religious bigotry. If the perpetrator were Muslim, this thread wouldn't have made it past the first page.

I don't follow the "far right", if there is such a thing, so I don't know what it's views on Christianity or abortion are.

SMH.

Good grief. The thrust of the discussion of the potential motives of this crime has been far more oriented toward politics than religion, though the religion-driven politics seems to be part of the reasons.

timothyu · Jun 17, 2025

Tropical Wilds said:
Now we’re saying that Christianity shouldn’t be involved in politics?

No I'm saying politics shouldn't be involved in Christianity (in its original form), even though Christianity re-joined itself with the Roman Empire 1700 years ago, thus giving the impression it should. Don't confuse Christianity with following the will of God. It diverted a long time ago back into the world of man.

Tropical Wilds · Jun 17, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
This series of posts would not be continuing if one poster (you) would stop ignoring the obvious.

To quote Aaron Burr (kind of): “And we both know what we know…”

But to actually say it requires either a level of courage, integrity, and self-reflection that’s not accessible to him at the moment. It’s symptomatic of this whole era right now that people in power rely on and prey upon, and the reason I’m spending my day watching TV as opposed to trying to convince scared people that you can face the truth and it will be ok.

Tropical Wilds · Jun 17, 2025

timothyu said:
No I'm saying politics shouldn't be involved in Christianity (in its original form), even though Christianity re-joined itself with the Roman Empire 1700 years ago, thus giving the impression it should.

Ah. I knew you’d rewrite history (on multiple fronts it seems) at some point. Go you.

timothyu said:
Don't confuse Christianity with following the will of God. It diverted a long time ago back into the world of man.

Apparently you forgot who you were talking to. Except when I say it, you freak out on me for being anti-Christian, lol.

timothyu · Jun 17, 2025

Tropical Wilds said:
Except when I say it, you freak out on me for being anti-Christian, lol.

Freak out on you? You are free to say and be what you want as am I. The concept there need be rebuttal all the time is a lie.

timothyu · Jun 17, 2025

Tropical Wilds said:
Ah. I knew you’d rewrite history (on multiple fronts it seems) at some point.

How so?

CaDan · Jun 17, 2025

timothyu said:
No I'm saying politics shouldn't be involved in Christianity (in its original form), even though Christianity re-joined itself with the Roman Empire 1700 years ago, thus giving the impression it should. Don't confuse Christianity with following the will of God. It diverted a long time ago back into the world of man.

I think I agree with you with the caveat that distinguishing these things after 1700 years of history is difficult.

Tropical Wilds · Jun 17, 2025

timothyu said:
Freak out on you? You are free to say and be what you want as am I. The concept there need be rebuttal all the time is a lie.

I understand that. Hence my not freaking out.

essentialsaltes · Jun 17, 2025

Trump won’t call ‘whacked out’ Walz after Minnesota shooter charged

President Donald Trump said he would not “waste time” calling Gov. Tim Walz after the weekend shootings.

“I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out, I’m not calling him. Why would I call him?” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on his way back from the G7 summit on Tuesday.

“He’s a mess. So I could be nice and call, but why waste time?” the president added.

Tropical Wilds · Jun 17, 2025

Well, that’s about the caliber of leadership I’d expect from Trump.

essentialsaltes · Jun 17, 2025

Wisconsin governor Walker is not going to let Senator Lee get all the glory!

Scott Walker deletes post [suggesting] MN shooter could be an 'ultra-liberal activist'

NxNW · Jun 17, 2025

Chesterton said:
Try to read the posts you reply to.

Your questions have been answered, so there doesn't seem to be anything else you're waiting on, which is why I asked.

CaDan · Jun 17, 2025

The great citizens of the North Star State don't really care what some cheesehead Packer backer has to say. It will just be drunken nonsense as usual.

Bradskii · Jun 17, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
“He’s a mess. So I could be nice and call, but why waste time?” the president added.

Mr. President? Sir? It's what normal human beings do. Normal people. If someone is hurt or worse, if they have actually been gunned down, then normal people, the ones that have a conscience, who exhibit sympathy, who have empathy, who find within themselves some humanity, some connection to their fellow travellers in life...they'd call to offer condolences. They'd ask what they might be able to do to help.

Wouldn't there be some Christian on the forum who could post something along the lines of encouragement to the guy? To offer some hope that he could be a better person? I'm pretty sure that you could quote Jesus as an example that we should all strive to attain. Shouldn't you be asking Trump to at least make some effort?

iluvatar5150 · Jun 17, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Trump won’t call ‘whacked out’ Walz after Minnesota shooter charged
President Donald Trump said he would not “waste time” calling Gov. Tim Walz after the weekend shootings.

“I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out, I’m not calling him. Why would I call him?” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on his way back from the G7 summit on Tuesday.

“He’s a mess. So I could be nice and call, but why waste time?” the president added.

essentialsaltes said:
Wisconsin governor Walker is not going to let Senator Lee get all the glory!

Scott Walker deletes post [suggesting] MN shooter could be an 'ultra-liberal activist'

classy

rambot · Jun 17, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Trump won’t call ‘whacked out’ Walz after Minnesota shooter charged
President Donald Trump said he would not “waste time” calling Gov. Tim Walz after the weekend shootings.

“I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out, I’m not calling him. Why would I call him?” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on his way back from the G7 summit on Tuesday.

“He’s a mess. So I could be nice and call, but why waste time?” the president added.

I saw that video and was gonna post it.

What kind of humanish person does not reach out and offer condolences?

I would point out that to Trump, showing empathy is a waste of time.

And people think he cares about THEM. It's so sad.

Fantine · Jun 17, 2025

When politicians--or ordinary citizens--are shot, every American should be concerned and compassionate.

Much has been made of Boelter's membership on a Minnesota state workforce board. When I looked up info, it seemed as if it had many members from different walks of life.

Boelter had built a scattered career that included food companies, retailing and pastoring, according to public records and his online posts. He has been living with his wife in a rural area outside the Twin Cities, and staying a few nights a week at a rental home in a working-class Minneapolis neighborhood with a couple of roommates.

Boelter was working overnight shifts for an organization that handles eye donations, said one roommate, David Carlson, and was trying to get a security company off the ground.

The members of the advisory board weren't there because they were Democrats, or friends of the governor. They were there to help develop and maintain a robust workforce in Minnesota.

I wish that those people who are trying to reinvent Boelter as a Democrat (he wasn't)
and shift blame (they can't) would spend a little time keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

Fantine · Jun 17, 2025

iluvatar5150 said:
classy

I'm sure Governor Walz didn't that want President Trump to waste his time with a nasty, barely coherent phone call, too. Nevertheless, as a representative of all Minnesotans, he would have accepted the call with his customary honesty, integrity, and grace.

essentialsaltes · Jun 18, 2025

Minnesota shooting suspect started as a frustrated idealist, his writings show

Before allegedly carrying out a "political assassination" on Saturday, Boelter was "clearly very religious, very passionate," and "devout, and sincere in his beliefs," said Charlie Kalech, CEO of the web design firm J-Town, commissioned by Boelter.

His fervent personality frothed with big, civic-minded ideas on how to "make the world a better place," Kalech said. In the professional relationship they had, Boelter was clearly "idealistic."

Most of those grand-scale projects never came to fruition, and the last time Kalech said he had contact with Boelter was May 2022.

Kalech recalled that Boelter chose his firm for the work because they are Jerusalem-based, and he wanted to support Israel.

[From Boelter's 2017 PowerPoint on 'Revoformation' - a book and the name of his ministry]

"I am very concerned that the leadership in the U.S. is slowly turning against Israel because we are losing our Judaic / Christian foundations that was [sic] once very strong," the presentation said. "I believe that if the Christians are united and the people who are leading this Revoformation are a blessing to Israel that it will be good for both Israel and the U.S."

Fantine · Jun 18, 2025

Yes, a Christian nationalist.
God created people with free will. His more crazed followers think that they can improve on God's formula by removing Free Will as an option

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