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I will preface by saying that I acknowledge the Bible makes it very clear when it comes to all forms of theft, including piracy- that theft is of course a sin.

Thou shalt not steal. - Exodus 20:15 KJV

However recently I have wondered how Exodus 20:15 would apply to the digital age and to intellectual property. Obviously, the Bible was written well before the concept of computers and digital media, so whilst the Bible still makes it clear that theft is not permissible for Christians, how would the Bible have handled the idea of intellectual property?

1. Digital Files are Infinitely Renewable - Unlike physical assets that are finite, computer files are able to be replicated (almost) infinitely. This aspect alone makes it much more difficult to track than, let's say, a physical TV that was stolen. In fact, with copying files, the original file remains in tact! How should Christians respond to this fact about digital property?
2. Intellectual Property Laws are Much More Vague - Again, the digital and conceptual aspect of intellectual property inherently makes it difficult to monitor and police. Many people unknowingly violate intellectual property laws when doing things such as posting on social media due to this. How would we be able to discern what counts as intellectual property theft? Would someone unknowingly recording a song they heard for their own personal use be considered theft, even if he or she didn't know about the copyright laws?
3. The Current Copyright Laws are Made to Protect Large Businesses in Expense of Ordinary Citizens - This point is a bit of a rant, and the Bible does say to Render therefore unto Cæsar the things which be Cæsar's, and unto God the things which be God's. - Luke 20:25 KJV However, my point still stands, that many of the copyright laws only protect large business. In fact, most modern music produced are legally owned by music labels instead of the artists that actually created the songs, to give an example. Again, we are called to obey the law so long as it isn't causing us to sin, hence why I mentionoed Luke 20:25, but this fact is still bothersome.
4. Should Bible Translations be Copyrighted? - While most Bible translations allow people and churches to quote Bible verses, the vast majority of translations are copyrighted by various organizations. Obviously, the Bible was ultimately written, and therefore owned, by Jesus Christ. So knowing this, should we as humans be permitted to copyright translations of the Bible we translate?


I am writing this NOT to advocate for against a certain stance on the intellectual property debate, I am merely asking questions about it, and trying to get to know how we as Christians should respond and react to the copyright laws.
 
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I will preface by saying that I acknowledge the Bible makes it very clear when it comes to all forms of theft, including piracy- that theft is of course a sin.

Thou shalt not steal. - Exodus 20:15 KJV

However recently I have wondered how Exodus 20:15 would apply to the digital age and to intellectual property. Obviously, the Bible was written well before the concept of computers and digital media, so whilst the Bible still makes it clear that theft is not permissible for Christians, how would the Bible have handled the idea of intellectual property?

1. Digital Files are Infinitely Renewable - Unlike physical assets that are finite, computer files are able to be replicated (almost) infinitely. This aspect alone makes it much more difficult to track than, let's say, a physical TV that was stolen. In fact, with copying files, the original file remains in tact! How should Christians respond to this fact about digital property?
2. Intellectual Property Laws are Much More Vague - Again, the digital and conceptual aspect of intellectual property inherently makes it difficult to monitor and police. Many people unknowingly violate intellectual property laws when doing things such as posting on social media due to this. How would we be able to discern what counts as intellectual property theft? Would someone unknowingly recording a song they heard for their own personal use be considered theft, even if he or she didn't know about the copyright laws?
3. The Current Copyright Laws are Made to Protect Large Businesses in Expense of Ordinary Citizens - This point is a bit of a rant, and the Bible does say to Render therefore unto Cæsar the things which be Cæsar's, and unto God the things which be God's. - Luke 20:25 KJV However, my point still stands, that many of the copyright laws only protect large business. In fact, most modern music produced are legally owned by music labels instead of the artists that actually created the songs, to give an example. Again, we are called to obey the law so long as it isn't causing us to sin, hence why I mentionoed Luke 20:25, but this fact is still bothersome.
4. Should Bible Translations be Copyrighted? - While most Bible translations allow people and churches to quote Bible verses, the vast majority of translations are copyrighted by various organizations. Obviously, the Bible was ultimately written, and therefore owned, by Jesus Christ. So knowing this, should we as humans be permitted to copyright translations of the Bible we translate?


I am writing this NOT to advocate for against a certain stance on the intellectual property debate, I am merely asking questions about it, and trying to get to know how we as Christians should respond and react to the copyright laws.
The basic rule: "if it is not yours, don't take it."
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Patents and copyrights were established to incentivize individual creativity. As corporations replaced individuals in the economic world, they pushed to have protections extended for longer periods of time. For an individual a lifetime is enough protection. Corporations can effectively be immortal and thus will seek to profit forever.

Places like youtibe can be interesting because many properties like old films and music may no longer have copyrights enforced. In a way abandoned rights might be seen legally as similar to a property easement in that a failure to exercise a right can constitute allowable usage.

When rollerblades were invented, a lawyer appeared on the local TV station to explain why they were forcing everyone to use the term "Inline skates". They lawyer said that if they didn't take the action to enforce their copyright, they would lose it.
 
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I will preface by saying that I acknowledge the Bible makes it very clear when it comes to all forms of theft, including piracy- that theft is of course a sin.

Thou shalt not steal. - Exodus 20:15 KJV

However recently I have wondered how Exodus 20:15 would apply to the digital age and to intellectual property. Obviously, the Bible was written well before the concept of computers and digital media, so whilst the Bible still makes it clear that theft is not permissible for Christians, how would the Bible have handled the idea of intellectual property?

1. Digital Files are Infinitely Renewable - Unlike physical assets that are finite, computer files are able to be replicated (almost) infinitely. This aspect alone makes it much more difficult to track than, let's say, a physical TV that was stolen. In fact, with copying files, the original file remains in tact! How should Christians respond to this fact about digital property?
2. Intellectual Property Laws are Much More Vague - Again, the digital and conceptual aspect of intellectual property inherently makes it difficult to monitor and police. Many people unknowingly violate intellectual property laws when doing things such as posting on social media due to this. How would we be able to discern what counts as intellectual property theft? Would someone unknowingly recording a song they heard for their own personal use be considered theft, even if he or she didn't know about the copyright laws?
3. The Current Copyright Laws are Made to Protect Large Businesses in Expense of Ordinary Citizens - This point is a bit of a rant, and the Bible does say to Render therefore unto Cæsar the things which be Cæsar's, and unto God the things which be God's. - Luke 20:25 KJV However, my point still stands, that many of the copyright laws only protect large business. In fact, most modern music produced are legally owned by music labels instead of the artists that actually created the songs, to give an example. Again, we are called to obey the law so long as it isn't causing us to sin, hence why I mentionoed Luke 20:25, but this fact is still bothersome.
4. Should Bible Translations be Copyrighted? - While most Bible translations allow people and churches to quote Bible verses, the vast majority of translations are copyrighted by various organizations. Obviously, the Bible was ultimately written, and therefore owned, by Jesus Christ. So knowing this, should we as humans be permitted to copyright translations of the Bible we translate?


I am writing this NOT to advocate for against a certain stance on the intellectual property debate, I am merely asking questions about it, and trying to get to know how we as Christians should respond and react to the copyright laws.
I own a small publishing company that sells Bibles. Many of the existing Bible versions are in the public domain and are therefore open for publication by anyone with a press. It is completely legal to print and sell these and many other books that have fallen into the Public Domain. I specialize in large print versions. I print KJV, Young's Literal, Farrar Fenton, Moffatt, and Waymouth. I publish through the services of Kindle Direct. They are very careful about copyright infringement. I have had to prove on several other editions that the material was, in fact, in the public domain. In all, I have over 100 books in publication. There are other books that are valuable for scripture study. Books by A.T. Roberson, Pink, Easton, and many other reference books. I also print some of the old classics by Dickens and others. I don't have high sales, usually a couple hundred a month. I have also authored a dozen or so books on scripture studies and topics.
My wife worked in newspapers for 20 years. There are rules about what and how much of a copyrighted book can be quoted. There are fair use laws. These also make quoting almost any book completely legal, with limitations.
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Copyright laws are important, and should be observed.
 
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I own a small publishing company that sells Bibles. Many of the existing Bible versions are in the public domain and are therefore open for publication by anyone with a press. It is completely legal to print and sell these and many other books that have fallen into the Public Domain. I specialize in large print versions. I print KJV, Young's Literal, Farrar Fenton, Moffatt, and Waymouth. I publish through the services of Kindle Direct. They are very careful about copyright infringement. I have had to prove on several other editions that the material was, in fact, in the public domain. In all, I have over 100 books in publication. There are other books that are valuable for scripture study. Books by A.T. Roberson, Pink, Easton, and many other reference books. I also print some of the old classics by Dickens and others. I don't have high sales, usually a couple hundred a month. I have also authored a dozen or so books on scripture studies and topics.
My wife worked in newspapers for 20 years. There are rules about what and how much of a copyrighted book can be quoted. There are fair use laws. These also make quoting almost any book completely legal, with limitations.
Peace.
Copyright laws are important, and should be observed.
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Weymouth New Testament: Modern English Translation
Giant Print King James Version New Testament: Super Large Print 22 Point Font
Hebrews Verse By Verse: Low Tide Press LARGE PRINT EDITION
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The Holy Bible The Old Testament Poetry Books: Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song Of Solomon
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Giant Print King James Version New Testament: Super Large Print 22 Point Font
Giant Print King James Version New Testament: Super Large Print 22 Point Font
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THE HOLY BIBLE HISTORY, large print
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The Student's Chronological New Testament: With Introductory Historical Notes And Outlines by A. T. Robertson
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I will preface by saying that I acknowledge the Bible makes it very clear when it comes to all forms of theft, including piracy- that theft is of course a sin.

Thou shalt not steal. - Exodus 20:15 KJV

However recently I have wondered how Exodus 20:15 would apply to the digital age and to intellectual property. Obviously, the Bible was written well before the concept of computers and digital media, so whilst the Bible still makes it clear that theft is not permissible for Christians, how would the Bible have handled the idea of intellectual property?

1. Digital Files are Infinitely Renewable - Unlike physical assets that are finite, computer files are able to be replicated (almost) infinitely. This aspect alone makes it much more difficult to track than, let's say, a physical TV that was stolen. In fact, with copying files, the original file remains in tact! How should Christians respond to this fact about digital property?
2. Intellectual Property Laws are Much More Vague - Again, the digital and conceptual aspect of intellectual property inherently makes it difficult to monitor and police. Many people unknowingly violate intellectual property laws when doing things such as posting on social media due to this. How would we be able to discern what counts as intellectual property theft? Would someone unknowingly recording a song they heard for their own personal use be considered theft, even if he or she didn't know about the copyright laws?
3. The Current Copyright Laws are Made to Protect Large Businesses in Expense of Ordinary Citizens - This point is a bit of a rant, and the Bible does say to Render therefore unto Cæsar the things which be Cæsar's, and unto God the things which be God's. - Luke 20:25 KJV However, my point still stands, that many of the copyright laws only protect large business. In fact, most modern music produced are legally owned by music labels instead of the artists that actually created the songs, to give an example. Again, we are called to obey the law so long as it isn't causing us to sin, hence why I mentionoed Luke 20:25, but this fact is still bothersome.
4. Should Bible Translations be Copyrighted? - While most Bible translations allow people and churches to quote Bible verses, the vast majority of translations are copyrighted by various organizations. Obviously, the Bible was ultimately written, and therefore owned, by Jesus Christ. So knowing this, should we as humans be permitted to copyright translations of the Bible we translate?


I am writing this NOT to advocate for against a certain stance on the intellectual property debate, I am merely asking questions about it, and trying to get to know how we as Christians should respond and react to the copyright laws.
Bible Copyrights: Translators deserve fair compensation (1 Timothy 5:18), but excessive restrictions on Scripture hinder the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19-20). Generous licensing (e.g., KJV’s public domain) aligns best with biblical stewardship. Another issue is that an accurate translation requires divine intervention, and if that is true, is God please with a bible project that will claim intellectual property of what is supposedly God's Word--restricting distribution and setting citation limits?

Excessive restrictions (e.g., prohibiting verse copying for ministry) risk violating the spirit of Scripture’s command to freely proclaim God’s Word (Matthew 10:8, Revelation 22:17). The KJV, for example, was never copyrighted, enabling widespread evangelism. There are some modern Bible versions that are in the public domain.

A balanced view: Copyright for orderly stewardship is permissible, but hoarding God’s Word for profit contradicts its purpose (Isaiah 55:1).

Another issue is that copyright eligible works must be original works, and thus, this is a constraint on the translators. Is God pleased with that? There seems to always be a downside to the laws of man (e.g., Copyright law).
 
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I will preface by saying that I acknowledge the Bible makes it very clear when it comes to all forms of theft, including piracy- that theft is of course a sin.

Thou shalt not steal. - Exodus 20:15 KJV

However recently I have wondered how Exodus 20:15 would apply to the digital age and to intellectual property. Obviously, the Bible was written well before the concept of computers and digital media, so whilst the Bible still makes it clear that theft is not permissible for Christians, how would the Bible have handled the idea of intellectual property?

1. Digital Files are Infinitely Renewable - Unlike physical assets that are finite, computer files are able to be replicated (almost) infinitely. This aspect alone makes it much more difficult to track than, let's say, a physical TV that was stolen. In fact, with copying files, the original file remains in tact! How should Christians respond to this fact about digital property?
2. Intellectual Property Laws are Much More Vague - Again, the digital and conceptual aspect of intellectual property inherently makes it difficult to monitor and police. Many people unknowingly violate intellectual property laws when doing things such as posting on social media due to this. How would we be able to discern what counts as intellectual property theft? Would someone unknowingly recording a song they heard for their own personal use be considered theft, even if he or she didn't know about the copyright laws?
3. The Current Copyright Laws are Made to Protect Large Businesses in Expense of Ordinary Citizens - This point is a bit of a rant, and the Bible does say to Render therefore unto Cæsar the things which be Cæsar's, and unto God the things which be God's. - Luke 20:25 KJV However, my point still stands, that many of the copyright laws only protect large business. In fact, most modern music produced are legally owned by music labels instead of the artists that actually created the songs, to give an example. Again, we are called to obey the law so long as it isn't causing us to sin, hence why I mentionoed Luke 20:25, but this fact is still bothersome.
4. Should Bible Translations be Copyrighted? - While most Bible translations allow people and churches to quote Bible verses, the vast majority of translations are copyrighted by various organizations. Obviously, the Bible was ultimately written, and therefore owned, by Jesus Christ. So knowing this, should we as humans be permitted to copyright translations of the Bible we translate?


I am writing this NOT to advocate for against a certain stance on the intellectual property debate, I am merely asking questions about it, and trying to get to know how we as Christians should respond and react to the copyright laws.
This is something I’m guilty of myself, especially back in the Napster days. My thought process was just what you described: since digital copies could be infinitely reproduced, it didn’t feel like stealing. Back then, I would have said no, it wasn’t theft. But now that I’m older, I realize I really was taking money that rightfully belonged to the artists and programmers who created those works.

Copyright law is the law of the land (Romans 13:1-2), and we should respect it. Even more importantly, as Christians, we’re called to treat others as we’d want to be treated (Matthew 7:12). If I created something in hopes of earning income, I’d want the people benefiting from it to pay for that privilege.

When an artist sells the rights to a large company, that doesn’t change the principle. The artist willingly gave up those rights and was compensated, and the company has a legitimate claim to recoup and profit from its investment.

Regarding Bible translations, I believe copyright is often more about ensuring proper credit and protecting the integrity of the text than making money. I’m no expert on copyright law, nor do I know who holds the rights to various translations, but I can understand not wanting to spend years of work on a translation only to have someone else claim it as their own.

In terms of making money, most translations are freely available online, and printed copies are often sold at minimal markup to cover production costs. When people choose editions with extra features, study notes, quality binding, or other enhancements, I don’t think it’s wrong for translators and publishers to earn reasonable compensation for their labor (1 Timothy 5:18; 1 Corinthians 9:14).
 
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