God is with me, but I just don't care

Questioning Brother · Jun 7, 2025

More and more, I can sense God is near, but it matters less and less to me. His presence does nothing for me. It is not helpful in any fashion. I don't care is he is there, but I do care that he actually helps me, which he doesn't. It is like talking to your friend the cop and a mugger comes up, beats you nearly to death, and your "friend" just stands there and watches it happen. Then afterwards, comes and put a hand on your shoulder and the only thing he does is tell you it will be okay. He doesn't stop the guy or call an ambulanced for you. He just stands there watching and then tries to comfort you. I don't want Him to comfort (meaningless, useless words) , I want Him to actually help (materially change the situation). Comforting is almost worse than nothing. especially from someone who could prevent the problems in the first place. I don't trust Him anymore, I needed action BEFORE OR DURING the problems, not after. After is entirely too little, too late.

What can I do? I don't care about the good on the other side, I don't trust Him, and more an more He is not worth it anymore.

Maria Billingsley · Jun 7, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
More and more, I can sense God is near, but it matters less and less to me. His presence does nothing for me. It is not helpful in any fashion. I don't care is he is there, but I do care that he actually helps me, which he doesn't. It is like talking to your friend the cop and a mugger comes up, beats you nearly to death, and your "friend" just stands there and watches it happen. Then afterwards, comes and put a hand on your shoulder and the only thing he does is tell you it will be okay. He doesn't stop the guy or call an ambulanced for you. He just stands there watching and then tries to comfort you. I don't want Him to comfort (meaningless, useless words) , I want Him to actually help (materially change the situation). Comforting is almost worse than nothing. especially from someone who could prevent the problems in the first place. I don't trust Him anymore, I needed action BEFORE OR DURING the problems, not after. After is entirely too little, too late.

What can I do? I don't care about the good on the other side, I don't trust Him, and more an more He is not worth it anymore.

We all look for miracles but it should not be our focus. Frankly, it is not part of an agape love for Jesus Christ of Nazareth at all. If you can find that kind of love for your Savior then your post will find satisfaction.
Be blessed

Zceptre · Jun 7, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
and your "friend" just stands there and watches it happen.

I stopped reading right here.

This is where at least part of the problem is I think.

This isn't what He done. At all.

Matthew 27 is what He done.

Maybe checking on what God had to say to Job when his whole life was destroyed is relevant right now.

I would write more, but I think the issue needs to be handled between you and your Maker.

It is a relationship thing, the trust, and you will have to talk to Him about that and make the choices He gives us all.

Prayers for you.

Questioning Brother · Jun 7, 2025

Zceptre said:
I stopped reading right here.

This is where at least part of the problem is I think.

This isn't what He done. At all.

Matthew 27 is what He done.

Maybe checking on what God had to say to Job when his whole life was destroyed is relevant right now.

I would write more, but I think the issue needs to be handled between you and your Maker.

It is a relationship thing, the trust, and you will have to talk to Him about that and make the choices He gives us all.

Prayers for you.

Ok, he did that 2000 years ago for me. That is why he is my friend. He is doing NOTHING about what I need him to do now. My prayers and needs are not about what he did 2000 years before I was born. They are about what is happening NOW. It is like coming to a parent and starving to death and the parent telling you, "What? I fed you last year!"

As for Job, the only thing that entire book says to me is God WILL hurt you and not even care. The pain I am going through make me completely not care what he can do afterwards.

Muhan · Jun 8, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
More and more, I can sense God is near, but it matters less and less to me. His presence does nothing for me. It is not helpful in any fashion. I don't care is he is there, but I do care that he actually helps me, which he doesn't. It is like talking to your friend the cop and a mugger comes up, beats you nearly to death, and your "friend" just stands there and watches it happen. Then afterwards, comes and put a hand on your shoulder and the only thing he does is tell you it will be okay. He doesn't stop the guy or call an ambulanced for you. He just stands there watching and then tries to comfort you. I don't want Him to comfort (meaningless, useless words) , I want Him to actually help (materially change the situation). Comforting is almost worse than nothing. especially from someone who could prevent the problems in the first place. I don't trust Him anymore, I needed action BEFORE OR DURING the problems, not after. After is entirely too little, too late.

What can I do? I don't care about the good on the other side, I don't trust Him, and more an more He is not worth it anymore.

Obedience to the Holy Ghost,
Is never ending wonderfulness.
If you desire to live in never ending wonderfulness,
then enter into the straight gate,
to the path of never-ending wonderfulness.

NBB · Jun 8, 2025

Complaining and accusing God of stuff never went well in the bible.

bèlla · Jun 8, 2025

If that’s how you feel why did you follow Him? Surely you haven’t been deprived all along? What is different about the present that didn’t sway your course before?

~bella

Sam91 · Jun 8, 2025

You say you feel Him near. The Bible says:
"Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion" Hebrews 3:15.

Perhaps pray for this heart of yours to be touched anew so you can feel His peace through whatever stresses you are going through. Any suffering on this world will matter not after we pass away. It will be short compared to eternity. Trials are good as that is when we grow, especially if we cling to Him.

FutureAndAHope · Jun 8, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
More and more, I can sense God is near, but it matters less and less to me. His presence does nothing for me. It is not helpful in any fashion. I don't care is he is there, but I do care that he actually helps me, which he doesn't. It is like talking to your friend the cop and a mugger comes up, beats you nearly to death, and your "friend" just stands there and watches it happen. Then afterwards, comes and put a hand on your shoulder and the only thing he does is tell you it will be okay. He doesn't stop the guy or call an ambulanced for you. He just stands there watching and then tries to comfort you. I don't want Him to comfort (meaningless, useless words) , I want Him to actually help (materially change the situation). Comforting is almost worse than nothing. especially from someone who could prevent the problems in the first place. I don't trust Him anymore, I needed action BEFORE OR DURING the problems, not after. After is entirely too little, too late.

What can I do? I don't care about the good on the other side, I don't trust Him, and more an more He is not worth it anymore.

In what ways, do you feel God is ignoring you?

johansen · Jun 8, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
More and more, I can sense God is near, but it matters less and less to me. His presence does nothing for me. It is not helpful in any fashion. I don't care is he is there, but I do care that he actually helps me, which he doesn't. It is like talking to your friend the cop and a mugger comes up, beats you nearly to death, and your "friend" just stands there and watches it happen. Then afterwards, comes and put a hand on your shoulder and the only thing he does is tell you it will be okay. He doesn't stop the guy or call an ambulanced for you. He just stands there watching and then tries to comfort you. I don't want Him to comfort (meaningless, useless words) , I want Him to actually help (materially change the situation). Comforting is almost worse than nothing. especially from someone who could prevent the problems in the first place. I don't trust Him anymore, I needed action BEFORE OR DURING the problems, not after. After is entirely too little, too late.

What can I do? I don't care about the good on the other side, I don't trust Him, and more an more He is not worth it anymore.

I get it, i have my own lengthy 13 years long experience with that.

You need to ask God what to do and go do it, without expecting a reward, so that you're not outside of his element so to speak, so that you will be protected from harm in the future.

Basically, if you want material support, you need to provide God material support first. he's not going to protect you from harm if you don't also protect others from harm. it sounds like karma, and christians usually hate that word. but it is sort of how it works, its just that we don't get to see the balance sheet and we don't get to see the order of events ahead of time.

don't expect people to miraculously show up and provide you food when you're hungry, if you never feed or are willing to feed the poor yourself.

but yes if you cry out to God for help, in faith, usually he delivers, sometimes immediately.

Sam91 · Jun 8, 2025

Sam91 said:
You say you feel Him near. The Bible says:
"Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion" Hebrews 3:15.

Perhaps pray for your heart to be touched anew so you can feel His peace through whatever stresses you are going through. Any suffering on this world will matter not after we pass away. It will be short compared to eternity. Trials are good as that is when we grow, especially if we cling to Him.

Oh I am sorry! I typed with a kind sounding voice in my head and left. I then came back and realised my post sounded harsh. I hope you didn't see it.

Have editted it anyway to try to make the tone it a little softer.

Questioning Brother · Jun 8, 2025

johansen said:
I get it, i have my own lengthy 13 years long experience with that.

You need to ask God what to do and go do it, without expecting a reward, so that you're not outside of his element so to speak, so that you will be protected from harm in the future.

Basically, if you want material support, you need to provide God material support first. he's not going to protect you from harm if you don't also protect others from harm. it sounds like karma, and christians usually hate that word. but it is sort of how it works, its just that we don't get to see the balance sheet and we don't get to see the order of events ahead of time.

don't expect people to miraculously show up and provide you food when you're hungry, if you never feed or are willing to feed the poor yourself.

but yes if you cry out to God for help, in faith, usually he delivers, sometimes immediately.

That has not been my experience. Done what he asked, no protection. Helped others. No help comes back.

Questioning Brother · Jun 8, 2025

Sam91 said:
Oh I am sorry! I typed with a kind sounding voice in my head and left. I then came back and realised my post sounded harsh. I hope you didn't see it.

Have editted it anyway to try to make the tone it a little softer.

Your tone is fine. I hear Him just fine. He says, "Trust me." I say, After all the stuff you let happen while I begged you to change it, I can't." I can't trust that anything will be different.

bèlla · Jun 8, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
Your tone is fine. I hear Him just fine. He says, "Trust me." I say, After all the stuff you let happen while I begged you to change it, I can't." I can't trust that anything will be different.

So your problem is unforgiveness and bitterness. They’ll block your blessings every time. Repent and ask for a fresh infilling of the Holy Spirit. You have to deal with the hardness in your heart first then you’ll have peace once more.

~bella

johansen · Jun 8, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
That has not been my experience. Done what he asked, no protection. Helped others. No help comes back.

I will not accuse you in any direct form, i've had a situation once where a person trapped in deep darkness wrote a lengthy report on a forum, and i knew i could not reply to him, so i asked God instead and what i heard was "i am showing him how evil he is"

and i told my mentor about this not long later and he immediately recognized what i'd heard and the gravity of it and said "yeah that's a hard place to be, but a legitimate one.

bèlla said:
So your problem is unforgiveness and bitterness. They’ll block your blessings every time. Repent and ask for a fresh infilling of the Holy Spirit. You have to deal with the hardness in your heart first then you’ll have peace once more.

~bella

i do not accuse.

bèlla · Jun 8, 2025

johansen said:
i do not accuse.

I’m replying to the OP’s comment which I quoted in my response. If you feel differently that’s fine. But you can’t micromanage my opinion. Your personal experience has no relation to what I said.

~bella

Questioning Brother · Jun 8, 2025

bèlla said:
So your problem is unforgiveness and bitterness. They’ll block your blessings every time. Repent and ask for a fresh infilling of the Holy Spirit. You have to deal with the hardness in your heart first then you’ll have peace once more.

~bella

It is not a person that is the problem. It is God. I won’t trust him because he has repeatedly shown he does not care. He planted the seeds of bitterness and poured (no)miracle grow on the seeds.

bèlla · Jun 8, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
It is not a person that is the problem. It is God. I won’t trust him because he has repeatedly shown he does not care. He planted the seeds of bitterness and poured (no)miracle grow on the seeds.

I’m aware it’s the Lord and didn’t think otherwise. But my advice remains the same. God doesn’t plant seeds of bitterness. They’re the result of long periods of unforgiveness we haven’t addressed. If we persist a root of bitterness will follow.

~bella

johansen · Jun 8, 2025

Questioning Brother said:
It is not a person that is the problem. It is God. I won’t trust him because he has repeatedly shown he does not care. He planted the seeds of bitterness and poured (no)miracle grow on the seeds.

my sister has a funny way of saying "when you smoke the devil's lettuce, he plants the seeds"

God is not the one who plants the seeds of darkness, satan does.

bèlla · Jun 8, 2025

johansen said:
you told the OP his problem is bitterness and unforgiveness

that is an accusation, as both are sin, and are secondary or tertiary byproducts of other problems. bitterness does not set in until after you have refused to forgive someone, and have also refused to accept the outcome of your unforgiveness!

You may want to edit your post in light of his response.

~bella

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