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Utah lawmakers’ own study found gender-affirming care benefits trans youth. Will they lift the treatment ban?
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The behaviors are just the outward expression of our sexuality. Trans is about something more fundamental to the individual--cognitive and emotional traits that make up the packages we call "masculinity" or "femininity". You know all that, we've been over it and over it. It's not just about boys who want to play with dolls or girls who want to play football.
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Given that the amount of people identifying that way seems to be tripling each generation... if you're asking if I have concerns about us having a society ran by 30 million people like that (while a substantial portion the remainder go along with whatever they want and try to codify it into policy out of "politeness" or because they're afraid of losing their job), then yes, I have concerns about that.
Per Perplexity:
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While gay individuals may also care about inclusive language, their core identity is typically related to sexual orientation rather than gender expression, making pronouns and gendered language generally less central to their daily experiences. Transgender individuals (who identify as male or female) also place some importance on correct pronoun use and gendered language in select circumstances, but non-binary people uniquely request language that goes beyond the binary for a wide variety of social situations, often facing additional challenges and conflicts.
In summary, while all LGBTQ+ groups can be sensitive to language, non-binary identifying individuals are often especially so.
And their "revolutionary mindset" often leads them to some other rather interesting ideological overlaps as well
The Revolution Will Not Be Gender-Conforming: Trans/Non-Binary Comrades Talk About Socialism - Queer Kentucky
On May 1st 2023, the Party for Socialism and Liberation held a May Day block party and rally for trans rights at Old Louisville Coffee Co-op in Louisville.
queerkentucky.com
I'm sure you're familiar with that old expression "Everything looks like a nail to a person who only has hammers"
It's not mere coincidence that a person who joins one "we need to rip down this existing system/structure and replace it" mindset ends up getting on board with all the others.
According to research by Dr. Patrick J. Egan at NYU at NYU, LGBTQ+ Americans are 4 times more likely than the general population to support left-wing ideologies unrelated to sexuality or gender identity.
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Right. It's all part of a conspiracy.Given that the amount of people identifying that way seems to be tripling each generation... if you're asking if I have concerns about us having a society ran by 30 million people like that (while a substantial portion the remainder go along with whatever they want and try to codify it into policy out of "politeness" or because they're afraid of losing their job), then yes, I have concerns about that.
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And to elaborate further:
While gay individuals may also care about inclusive language, their core identity is typically related to sexual orientation rather than gender expression, making pronouns and gendered language generally less central to their daily experiences. Transgender individuals (who identify as male or female) also place some importance on correct pronoun use and gendered language in select circumstances, but non-binary people uniquely request language that goes beyond the binary for a wide variety of social situations, often facing additional challenges and conflicts.
In summary, while all LGBTQ+ groups can be sensitive to language, non-binary identifying individuals are often especially so.
And their "revolutionary mindset" often leads them to some other rather interesting ideological overlaps as well
The Revolution Will Not Be Gender-Conforming: Trans/Non-Binary Comrades Talk About Socialism - Queer Kentucky
On May 1st 2023, the Party for Socialism and Liberation held a May Day block party and rally for trans rights at Old Louisville Coffee Co-op in Louisville.
I'm sure you're familiar with that old expression "Everything looks like a nail to a person who only has hammers"
It's not mere coincidence that a person who joins one "we need to rip down this existing system/structure and replace it" mindset ends up getting on board with all the others.
According to research by Dr. Patrick J. Egan at NYU at NYU, LGBTQ+ Americans are 4 times more likely than the general population to support left-wing ideologies unrelated to sexuality or gender identity.
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Why? Trans is not the same as non-binary. Being transgendered is a mental illness. Being non-binary is typically a performative role concerning the rejection of sexual stereotypes.
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That's why its a mental illness if you truly believe your individual traits make you the opposite sex.
Masculinity and femininity are performative based. Girls cry more than boys. Girls are more emotional than boys. Boys are rougher than girls.
Just because a boy shows his emotions more than most, doesn't make him a girl.
No its not about playing with dolls, but that us often how trans supporters view it. A boy is more emotional, likes dolls, prefers to clean the house, therefore he is a girl inside.
The packages you mentioned are all performative packages. As if they determine if you are a male or female.
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Its the same thing. Being transgendered is a mental illness.
Yup. That's why its not remotely like being transgendered.
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No, it's not a conspiracy... it's a simple recognition of the fact that people will often adopt the viewpoints of the adjacent social circles they keep, even if those viewpoints had nothing to do with the "common theme" that initially brought them together.
That's basic group dynamics.
Take for instance, this one.
A study/survey in the UK of vegans, found that 66.4% of respondents identified as something other than cis/straight, a figure much higher than the estimated 3.2% of the UK population identifying as LGBTQ+. (and despite only 2-4% of the UK identifying as vegan)
On paper, a person's food ethics preferences have nothing to do with their sexual attractions or gender identity...yet, look at that degree of overlap.
Same is true in the US on certain datapoints.
To me the most obvious answer seems like it's the one that makes the most sense.
The political left is more likely to support veganism for environmental and animal ethics reasons, and the political left is also the entity that gives vocal support to the LGBTQ community. Therefore, their "link" is actually a common political ally, and people tend to adopt the views of common political allies.
Meaning if GLAAD and PETA are both showing up to a lot of the same political events and rallies for their own separate reasons, it's only a matter of time before the two groups proselytize their political viewpoints to each other...
Its the same reason why one can make a reasonably good guess on which side of an issue a person is going to come down on, merely by knowing which other groups they're a member of here in the US.
Ex: If a person identifies as a non-binary, environmentalist, pro-choice advocate.... I can take a guess at what their position is on gun control and universal healthcare, and there's a 90% chance I'll be right.
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About what you would expect of people at odds with the traditional social order. But here's the thing: You haven't been able to convince us that we think that boys should always been allowed in girls' sports. You have failed to prove that we support surgical and other permanent interventions for children as the end goal of the "trans agenda." I suppose we could talk about bathrooms again, but what about your recent post?
Where's the "So what?"
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That's less than the number of people who don't believe in God, like you and I don't.
I am unfamiliar with this source, but I also don't see why we should be bothered by these numbers.
This unsurprising if you just think it through. It may have been unfamiliar and still might not be part
Congratulations on finding the extremists. So what? It's like thinking every conservative on this board who likes something Trump did or voted for him is a closeted Curtis Yarvin superfan. They aren't. Yarvin is an extremist nut.And their "revolutionary mindset" often leads them to some other rather interesting ideological overlaps as well
The Revolution Will Not Be Gender-Conforming: Trans/Non-Binary Comrades Talk About Socialism - Queer Kentucky
On May 1st 2023, the Party for Socialism and Liberation held a May Day block party and rally for trans rights at Old Louisville Coffee Co-op in Louisville.
Do you really want to ask this question?
Shocking! The people who are being persecuted by one political faction and (moderately) supported by the other give a strong look at the ideology of those that fight their persecutors? Next thing you'll be telling me that non-believers aren't buying the Christian arguments against abortion.
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No need to be rude. And no, as I said a million times, I don’t care what adults do. From my perspective, trans people have a mental illness and validating their delusion only harms them, but not my monkey, not my circus.
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I did before I posted and confirmed my suspicions. There is no hard evidence but plenty of opinion in it. You should support your assertions within the post you make them and avoid the “appeal to authority” logical fallacy.
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Yes, but Atheists (as a cohort) don't seem to have the same propensity radical activism and don't seek foist the same level impositions and speech codes on the rest of society.
As the old Lewis Black joke goes (PG-version): "I know atheists, they're not trying to take over anything, they don't even have enough energy to have faith for ---- sake"
So if there were a group (with a highly activist track record) that had a 70% ideological overlap with, say, the Proud Boys...
And you saw that group was tripling in size every 10-20 years, that wouldn't cause any concerns?
But the the lie that's being told is that the aforementioned mentalities are "the fringe"
According to the 2024 FIRE College Free Speech Rankings, among a sample of 454 nonbinary college students:
- 86% said it's acceptable to shout down a campus speaker.
- 73% showed some level of approval for physically blocking others from attending a speech they deemed to be offensive.
- 53% did not categorically oppose the use of physical violence to stop a speech.
Therefore, it's not just "a few bad apples"
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Right. That is called gender dysphoria and it is a clinical condition. But we're talking about trans people.
What it makes, if he's trans, is a boy with the cognitive and emotional traits you just identified as the traits of a girl. He knows what genitals he has. That's what trans is.
He might be. You'd have to ask him, talk to him quite a bit. about it. But that would be "gender affirming care" and we can't do that any more.
No, the performance is only a symptom.
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All trans people are dysphoric. All trans people are mentally ill.
No its not. The boy believes he should be a girl. Do you believe the things I mentioned are hard and fast rules? What exactly are these emotional traits of a girl? At what level do you have to have them in otder to be considered a girl?
That's an odd definition of gender affirming care. I dont think I've ever heard that definition. Where did you find that?
A symptom of what? Are those symptoms clear delineation? If you perform this way you are a boy, if you perform that way you are a girl? And who has decided that certain performances are indicative of such. I thought those things were some sort of cultural construct?
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