Lost attitude control... Broke up above the Indian Ocean
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SpaceX Starship 9 breaking apart
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Ophiolite
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And the booster apparently exploded when it attempted its "landing" burn. However, the development methodology of Space-X focuses on gathering data that will enable problems to be corrected. The loss of data is far more damaging than the loss of a vehicle. They got a fair volume of data this time.
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Looks like the booster exploded between the clouds and the sea during the landing burn. I had a bad live feed that was more interested in selling t-shirts. Here is a nice booster recap...
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We've been shooting rockets into space for over almost 70 years. How much valuable data could you possibly get from continuing to blow up rockets in the atmosphere?
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Vast quantities relating to the engineering performance of the rocket engines, structural compenents, ancillary equipment, control mechanisms, heat tiles, etc. And this data was obtained, not by blowing up a rocket in the atmosphere, but despite blowing up a rocket in the atmosphere.
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Let me get this straight.
According to AI Overview:
SpaceX's primary goal is to enable humanity to become a multi-planetary species, primarily by colonizing Mars. This ambitious goal is achieved through a combination of reducing space transportation costs and developing advanced, reusable launch vehicles like Starship.
These rockets are blowing up left, right, and center.
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In its development and testing phase, SpaceX Starship rockets have had multiple explosions, with some incidents occurring during ground tests and others during flight. Specifically, SN9, SN10, SN11 and SN8 have all been reported to have blown up. Additionally, flights 7 and 8 of Starship have also resulted in explosions.
And they want people to eventually get aboard those things???
How's come their rockets become fireworks, while NASA's rockets do it right (with some exceptions)?
Maybe Space X should be checking with NASA engineers?
Oh, well.
That's science for you.
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Nithavela
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Reminds me of when I play Kerbal Space program, but I'd think that our top rocket scientists could achieve some results with something besides the empirical method.
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The thought is that the private sector can be more efficient than the public sector.
With government work, you only get to pick one of FAST, CHEAP(ish) or SAFE(ish).
With SpaceX, you get to pick two. For whatever reason, they chose FAST and CHEAP(ish).
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I'm kind of relieved that Musk has taken a break from blowing up our government and exploding Americans' financial security and the regulatory agencies that protect us to blow up spaceships.
And how fortunate that all the Space debris and resultant pollution, damage to marine life, etc. took place in the Indian Ocean instead of the Gulf of "America."
Does he do his own cleanup of the environment, I wonder?
I am not against testing out space ships--but it seems as if he is not doing sufficient research and development ahead of time if the spaceships he launches keep exploding.
www.forbes.com
And how fortunate that all the Space debris and resultant pollution, damage to marine life, etc. took place in the Indian Ocean instead of the Gulf of "America."
Does he do his own cleanup of the environment, I wonder?
I am not against testing out space ships--but it seems as if he is not doing sufficient research and development ahead of time if the spaceships he launches keep exploding.
Elon Musk’s SpaceX Starship Explodes After 46 Minutes In Orbit
SpaceX's Starship flew for 46 minutes during its ninth test before breaking up over the Indian Ocean, while it lost its Super Heavy booster during descent.
www.forbes.com
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As best I recall, the original plan for the 1st starship mission was to maybe make it to the Indian Ocean and do so in the 2nd mission. They still haven't orbited the Earth a full time yet.
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It's the way he does things. Build it and try it and if it blows up try and find out why and build another one. I'm not defending it, it's rash and expensive but sometimes it works. Consider by way of contrast the Artemis program; testing, testing, follow procedures step by careful step, years behind schedule they finally produced a fully tested and vetted Orion capsule and when they shot it into real outer space it didn't work anyway and nearly killed its crew. Musk's approach is probably cheaper in the long run and he has the cash flow from the Falcon program to keep it going. Why not?I'm kind of relieved that Musk has taken a break from blowing up our government and exploding Americans' financial security and the regulatory agencies that protect us to blow up spaceships.
And how fortunate that all the Space debris and resultant pollution, damage to marine life, etc. took place in the Indian Ocean instead of the Gulf of "America."
Does he do his own cleanup of the environment, I wonder?
I am not against testing out space ships--but it seems as if he is not doing sufficient research and development ahead of time if the spaceships he launches keep exploding.
Elon Musk’s SpaceX Starship Explodes After 46 Minutes In Orbit
SpaceX's Starship flew for 46 minutes during its ninth test before breaking up over the Indian Ocean, while it lost its Super Heavy booster during descent.
Of course while it may be a good approach to building space rockets, it didn't seem to work so well with government agencies.
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Ophiolite
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Operation Paperclip, IIRC.
Not to mention that some of the equipment in the Apollo program was designed outside the US, by non-Americans. Few would dispute that the drive and the finance for the program was American, but without von Braun and his associates it is questionable if the program would (metaphorically and literally) have got off the ground.
As an aside, I hope von Braun was sincere in his claim that he had always wished his rockets could land on the moon, rather than fall on London.
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SpaceX has brought an excitement to the space program missing since the space shuttle days. It will nice to see another attempt at a moon landing. I would think the goal for Mars is at least step foot there. I do not think a colony feasible.
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Nithavela
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If they don't want to build a colony there I hope they don't forget their cyanide capsules, since the trip to mars will almost certainly not have a return flight.
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