Pope Leo XIV's maternal grandparents were black or mulatto African/Caribbean in New Orleans

Say it aint so · May 11, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
What laws today is racism still embedded?

Oompa Loompa said:
What laws today is racism still embedded?

Read what I wrote. CRT is the understanding that racism has been embedded into the politics and laws of the US.
Even if you think racism is no longer a thing in the US, it does not negate the reality of what CRT is and means.
It is being attacked and misconstrued by the right simply because, and as we seen with book bans, because they wish to purge the US of that stain in it's history. It's that simple. Our history is what it is. No need to white wash it.

Say it aint so · May 11, 2025

Back to the Pope.

I kind of think the Vatican purposely chose this particular person who champions what Jesus actually championed; taking up the mantle for the "least of us" from the very country where those who claim to follow Jesus and the leader they champion, think taking up for the least of us are just liberal talking points.

Always in His Presence · May 11, 2025

Say it aint so said:
Read what I wrote. CRT is the understanding that racism has been embedded into the politics and laws of the US.
Even if you think racism is no longer a thing in the US, it does not negate the reality of what CRT is and means.
It is being attacked and misconstrued by the right simply because, and as we seen with book bans, because they wish to purge the US of that stain in it's history. It's that simple. Our history is what it is. No need to white wash it.

Avoiding the question does not answer it.

Oompa Loompa · May 11, 2025

Say it aint so said:
CRT is the understanding that racism has been embedded into the politics and laws of the US.

I never said racism is no longer a thing. I experience it all the time from white liberal women. Again I ask, which laws is racism still embedded?

Say it aint so · May 11, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
Avoiding the question does not answer it.

You're question is irrelevant. Even if by some magic wand racism throughout the US was eradicated, CRT remains a reality.

Say it aint so · May 11, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
I never said racism is no longer a thing. I experience it all the time from white liberal women. Again I ask, which laws is racism still embedded?

CRT is this, "Critical race theory is an academic concept that is more than 40 years old. The core idea is that race is a social construct, and that racism is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies." That theory, heck that reality, is indeed true. Moreover, I know redlining is still a thing.

Aryeh Jay · May 12, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
I never said racism is no longer a thing. I experience it all the time from white liberal women. Again I ask, which laws is racism still embedded?

You kinda set yourself up for this but just because a white woman says "No" dosen't make them liberals.

Oompa Loompa · May 12, 2025

Aryeh Jay said:
You kinda set yourself up for this but just because a white woman says "No" dosen't make them liberals.

Well. I am married. So I don't ask.

Aryeh Jay · May 12, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Well. I am married. So I don't ask.

I'm married too. Best deal she ever made. I was tricked in my youth. At least one of us is happy.

Fantine · May 12, 2025

Equal in importance, despite Republicans' neglect of the born.
Someone once brought up this analogy. In a fire, would you save the infant in a crib or the embryo in the freezer. Ridiculous, I know. How about this?
Your infant needs lifesaving surgery, but there's a bill coming up for storage of your frozen embryo. Which would you pay for with your limited funds?

Oompa Loompa · May 12, 2025

Fantine said:
Equal in importance, despite Republicans' neglect of the born.
Someone once brought up this analogy. In a fire, would you save the infant in a crib or the embryo in the freezer. Ridiculous, I know. How ? about this?
Your infant needs lifesaving surgery, but there's a bill coming up for storage of your frozen embryo. Which would you pay for with your limited funds?

The question I would ask is why you have a frozen embryo? That in itself is morally wrong.

Oompa Loompa · May 12, 2025

Say it aint so said:
CRT is this, "Critical race theory is an academic concept that is more than 40 years old. The core idea is that race is a social construct, and that racism is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies." That theory, heck that reality, is indeed true. Moreover, I know redlining is still a thing.

Again I ask for a third time. Which laws are racism still embedded? How are we to know what laws needs to be changed if nobody knows which laws are racist?

wing2000 · May 12, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
No. Why is the left trying to once again make race an issue? Nobody cares about what the Pope's grandparents look like. But it seems like the left is trying to fabricate an imaginary racial issue just to find something to complain about.

The op did not "make race an issue". Nor did the op "complain" about race. I suggest you re-read the Op's first post.

Oompa Loompa · May 12, 2025

wing2000 said:
The op did not "make race an issue". Nor did the op "complain" about race. I suggest you re-read the Op's first post.

I suggest you re-read the OP's first post because she clearly asked,
"But is this why there seems to be a conservative backlash towards him?" And I responded with my answer.

wing2000 · May 12, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
I suggest you re-read the OP's first post because she clearly asked,
"But is this why there seems to be a conservative backlash towards him?" And I responded with my answer.

Okay. I didn't read it as the "conservative backlash" was based on race.

Say it aint so · May 12, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Again I ask for a third time. Which laws are racism still embedded? How are we to know what laws needs to be changed if nobody knows which laws are racist?

And I will say this again. Absolutely irrelevant. There doesn't have to be racism currently embedded in laws to understand that laws are in fact used as a form of racism. Do I personally know of any? I am not a judge nor a lawyer privy to all laws of states, cities, townships or municipalities. I do know if fact those people in that legal arena would have that insight. You know, those law professors, lawyers, and law school students where courses on CRT solely take place. The idea that yes, laws are used in racist or ethnicity was to marginalize a group, is not just a US thing. You can find those laws in the Bible. Your question of "what about now" doesn't negate the reality.

Oompa Loompa · May 12, 2025

Say it aint so said:
And I will say this again. Absolutely irrelevant. There doesn't have to be racism currently embedded in laws to understand that laws are in fact used as a form of racism. Do I personally know of any? I am not a judge nor a lawyer privy to all laws of states, cities, townships or municipalities. I do know if fact those people in that legal arena would have that insight. You know, those law professors, lawyers, and law school students where courses on CRT solely take place. The idea that yes, laws are used in racist or ethnicity was to marginalize a group, is not just a US thing. You can find those laws in the Bible. Your question of "what about now" doesn't negate the reality.

So the solution is what? Destroy the entire system and replace it with something more "equitable?"

Say it aint so · May 12, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
So the solution is what? Destroy the entire system and replace it with something more "equitable?"

I don't know about solution.
What I do say is the purposely misconstruing of CRT to justify basically banning books and whitewash history needs to stop.

If she is strong enough to live it, your kids are strong enough to learn it:

RileyG · May 12, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
The question I would ask is why you have a frozen embryo? That in itself is morally wrong.

amen. Life is not disposable. Which is why I do not support IVF et al

RileyG · May 12, 2025

Fantine said:
Equal in importance, despite Republicans' neglect of the born.
Someone once brought up this analogy. In a fire, would you save the infant in a crib or the embryo in the freezer. Ridiculous, I know. How about this?
Your infant needs lifesaving surgery, but there's a bill coming up for storage of your frozen embryo. Which would you pay for with your limited funds?

Why would an embryo be frozen in the first place? No life should be treated like that, and yes, all life, regardless of location, is important.

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