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Greg Abbott signs Texas school voucher bill into law.

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Texas will give participating families about $10,000 to pay for their kids’ private schooling. Other details about the program, set to launch in 2026, are unclear.

Gov. Greg Abbott on Saturday signed legislation authorizing a private school voucher program into law, marking the grand finale of an oftentimes ugly conflict that has largely defined Texas politics this decade.

Senate Bill 2 will allow families to use public taxpayer dollars to fund their children’s education at an accredited private school or to pay for a wide range of school-related expenses, like textbooks, transportation or therapy. The program will be one of the largest school voucher initiatives in the nation.

I think this is amazing. Hopefully this becomes a trend with more states.
 

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Yes, I love it when the party of “efficiency” expands a program that’s known to not work.
When and where has school vouchers been tried and failed?
 
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I hope these dollars are coming from the Taxpayers of Texas and not my tax dollars.
So is it then your position that poor underprivileged minority children shouldn't have an opportunity to go to a better school if it mean money isn't coming from your pocket? But public schools using your tax money to normalize wierd sex stuff to children is fine? Well, unless you live in Texas, it shouldn't effect your wallet.
 
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When and where has school vouchers been tried and failed?
Lots of places:




The gist is that earlier studies showed some success with vouchers, but after 2015, that mostly dried up, with more recent results showing mostly no improvement or even declines. The success of a program is largely dependent upon a lot of details regarding its implementation and the specific context or environment in which it’s implemented. Scaled up, it largely becomes a boon to the affluent who already send their kids to private schools.
 
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So is it then your position that poor underprivileged minority children shouldn't have an opportunity to go to a better school if it mean money isn't coming from your pocket? But public schools using your tax money to normalize wierd sex stuff to children is fine? Well, unless you live in Texas, it shouldn't effect your wallet.

Funny how Republicans can complain about tax dollars supporting abortion and school meals but when it comes to a pet project spending tax dollars is ok.

I thought Texas was perfect anyway, what's the truth?
 
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Funny how Republicans can complain about tax dollars supporting abortion and school meals but when it comes to a pet project spending tax dollars is ok.

I thought Texas was perfect anyway, what's the truth?
Who is complaining about school meals? Why are you so opposed to poor black kids going to a better school?
 
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I thought Texas was perfect anyway, what's the truth?
Who said Texas was perfect? What is with all the strawman argument? Can you articulate a reasonable argument that addresses the OP topic?
 
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I think this is amazing. Hopefully this becomes a trend with more states.
That sounds great - until you find out that:

1. Over half of the counties in Texas (~150 of 250) don't have a private school for parents to send their kids to, even if they wanted to.

2. 75% of the private school in Texas are religious schools (meaning that this amounts to government subsidy of religious education). I'm sure that won't bother some of you, but it bothers me.

3. The average cost of private schools in Texas is more than the $10,000 offered via vouchers - so lower-income families will either have to settle for lower-tier private schools that have lower tuition or come up with hundreds or even thousands more in extra money per child to pay tuition. Or keep their kids in public schools that are being drained of funding, students, and educators. Meanwhile, the people who can already afford to send their kids to private school get an extra $10k per child back in their pockets.

 
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That sounds great - until you find out that:

1. Over half of the counties in Texas (~150 of 250) don't have a private school for parents to send their kids to, even if they wanted to.

2. 75% of the private school in Texas are religious schools (meaning that this amounts to government subsidy of religious education). I'm sure that won't bother some of you, but it bothers me.

3. The average cost of private schools in Texas is more than the $10,000 offered via vouchers - so lower-income families will either have to settle for lower-tier private schools that have lower tuition or come up with hundreds or even thousands more in extra money per child to pay tuition. Or keep their kids in public schools that are being drained of funding, students, and educators. Meanwhile, the people who can already afford to send their kids to private school get an extra $10k per child back in their pockets.

From the article:
  • $11,050 is the average tuition among all K-12 private schools in Texas.
  • $10,729 is the average cost of tuition at private elementary schools.
  • $12,161 is the average cost of tuition at secondary schools.

I’m amazed the averages are that low. My kid’s school was $17k for pre-school and next year it’ll be $23k for kindergarten. Middle school rates are $33k.
 
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ACT scores shows private schools perorm better.

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From the article:


I’m amazed the averages are that low. My kid’s school was $17k for pre-school and next year it’ll be $23k for kindergarten. Middle school rates are $33k.
The numbers seem to be pulled from here: Texas Private Schools By Tuition Cost (2025)

The school with the lowest tuition (listed as $1170/year) actually does their tuition on an income-based sliding scale and all students receive scholarships. Second-lowest is a religious school, and it's significantly outdated - per their website, the active member rate is now $2500/year; $7500 for non-members (which is still ridiculously low, IMO). Third on the list appears to be monthly tuition, as the page for the school lists their 5-day pre-K rate at $11,700/year. Fourth is also incorrect.

So yeah, the actual average is likely significantly higher.
 
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There are two main factors that play into this:

1. Private schools are free to reject or exclude any students they don't want to deal with. They can kick out or refuse to accept students who don't achieve academically or who are disruptive in class or who have special needs. Public schools don't have that option unless a student is an actual danger.

2. Students from wealthier families (i.e. those who can afford to send their children to private schools) tend to have better home environments. This translates to better study conditions, parental assistance with homework and projects, extracurricular activities, and not needing to take a part-time job to help support the family budget. They can also more easily afford things like SAT/ACT prep classes or prep materials, which can make a huge difference for those exams.

What this means is that private schools generally have better students (or at least, students with better support systems), which brings up the average test results. It does not mean that private schools are inherently better than public schools.
 
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That sounds great - until you find out that:

1. Over half of the counties in Texas (~150 of 250) don't have a private school for parents to send their kids to, even if they wanted to.

2. 75% of the private school in Texas are religious schools (meaning that this amounts to government subsidy of religious education). I'm sure that won't bother some of you, but it bothers me.

3. The average cost of private schools in Texas is more than the $10,000 offered via vouchers - so lower-income families will either have to settle for lower-tier private schools that have lower tuition or come up with hundreds or even thousands more in extra money per child to pay tuition. Or keep their kids in public schools that are being drained of funding, students, and educators. Meanwhile, the people who can already afford to send their kids to private school get an extra $10k per child back in their pockets.

Many non-religious parents send their children to Christian private schools because the quality is so much better. Furthermore, the voucher can also be used for home school and online schooling. Still better than anything the public school system has ever offered.
 
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There are two main factors that play into this:

1. Private schools are free to reject or exclude any students they don't want to deal with. They can kick out or refuse to accept students who don't achieve academically or who are disruptive in class or who have special needs. Public schools don't have that option unless a student is an actual danger.

2. Students from wealthier families (i.e. those who can afford to send their children to private schools) tend to have better home environments. This translates to better study conditions, parental assistance with homework and projects, extracurricular activities, and not needing to take a part-time job to help support the family budget. They can also more easily afford things like SAT/ACT prep classes or prep materials, which can make a huge difference for those exams.

What this means is that private schools generally have better students (or at least, students with better support systems), which brings up the average test results. It does not mean that private schools are inherently better than public schools.
Even so, home schooled kids still perform better than public schools. I believe that the most significant result of this new law is that now public schools actually have to compete with other schools.
 

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From the article:


I’m amazed the averages are that low. My kid’s school was $17k for pre-school and next year it’ll be $23k for kindergarten. Middle school rates are $33k.
Sorry, but $33k a year for middle school? You got ripped off.
 
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Sorry, but $33k a year for middle school? You got ripped off.
You get what you pay for. A good private school has to do something besides shield the kids from the existence of LGBT people.
 
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