THE QUESTION IS HOW IS ISRAEL SAVED ??

Dan Perez · Tuesday at 3:08 PM

AND we do know that Israel and JUDAH are know two NATON and in Eze 37 are each a STICK

# 1 We do knw that Christ will make the TWO STICKS , ONE STICK .

# 2 And I says that it is ISRAEL and JUDAH will be BORN AGAIN !!

# 3 And many believe that say that they BORN AGAIN ??

What say you !

dan p

Clare73 · Wednesday at 1:09 PM

Dan Perez said:
AND we do know that Israel and JUDAH are know two NATON and in Eze 37 are each a STICK

# 1 We do knw that Christ will make the TWO STICKS , ONE STICK .

# 2 And I says that it is ISRAEL and JUDAH will be BORN AGAIN !!

# 3 And many believe that say that they BORN AGAIN ??

What say you !

dan p

That question is answered in Ro 11:16-23.

Dan Perez · Wednesday at 3:10 PM

Clare73 said:
That question is answered in Ro 11:16-23.

And did not and back up to Rom 11:7 and 8 !

verse 7 What then ??

What ISRAEL seeks after , it did not OBTAIN and the rest were HARDENED '

Verse 8 , Just as it was written , God gave them a spirit of STUPOR , eyes to see NOT // ME , means that Israel will

never SEE , because the GREEK word ME , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE will never ever see until Israel and

JUDAH will again become ONE STICK as written in EZE 37 !!

and EARS to HEAR NOT , UNTIL THIS DAY >

dan p

Clare73 · Wednesday at 3:14 PM

Dan Perez said:
And did not and back up to Rom 11:7 and 8 !
verse 7 What then ??
What ISRAEL seeks after , it did not OBTAIN and the rest were HARDENED '
Verse 8 , Just as it was written , God gave them a spirit of STUPOR , eyes to see NOT // ME , means that Israel will
never SEE , because the GREEK word ME , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE will never ever see until Israel and
JUDAH will again become ONE STICK as written in EZE 37 !!
and EARS to HEAR NOT , UNTIL THIS DAY >

A remnant is being saved (Ro 11:5), which is the same way Gentiles are being saved.

Dan Perez · Wednesday at 3:21 PM

Clare73 said:
A remnant is being saved (Ro 11:5), which is the same way Gentiles are being saved.

AND is still speaking about Israel and from Rom 11:1-and on and ACTS 28:25-28 !!

dan p

Minister Monardo · Wednesday at 6:06 PM

Dan Perez said:
AND we do know that Israel and JUDAH are know two NATON and in Eze 37 are each a STICK

# 1 We do knw that Christ will make the TWO STICKS , ONE STICK .

# 2 And I says that it is ISRAEL and JUDAH will be BORN AGAIN !!

# 3 And many believe that say that they BORN AGAIN ??

What say you !

dan p

Short answer. By Promise. It is also the work of Christ in its time.
Watch and pray, and we will see all of His Enemies underfoot, and the fulfillment of His Word.
John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring,
and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.,

By His word in John 10, His flock are those who hear His Voice.
There is no divisions, Jew/Gentile, etc...
One standard for all:
Today, if you hear His Voice, harden not your heart.

Dan Perez · Wednesday at 7:55 PM

Minister Monardo said:
Short answer. By Promise. It is also the work of Christ in its time.
Watch and pray, and we will see all of His Enemies underfoot, and the fulfillment of His Word.
John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring,
and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.,

By His word in John 10, His flock are those who hear His Voice.
There is no divisions, Jew/Gentile, etc...
One standard for all:
Today, if you hear His Voice, harden not your heart.

And who are the other SHEEP with a verse , please ??

dan p

Minister Monardo · Wednesday at 8:07 PM

Dan Perez said:
And who are the other SHEEP with a verse , please ??

The answer is in the rest of the verse that you failed to quote.

Minister Monardo said:
which are not of this fold

As the Lord was addressing Israel at the time,
He anticipated the soon to be grafted in Gentiles, by faith.
If you need more verses to support the notion, you don't even need the NT.
Isaiah Forty-Nine:
6 Indeed He says,
‘It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob,
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.’

Minister Monardo · Wednesday at 8:11 PM

Minister Monardo said:
Isaiah Forty-Nine:
6 Indeed He says,
‘It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob,
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.’

Acts 13:
46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said,
“It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first;
but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life,
behold, we turn to the Gentiles.
47 For so the Lord has commanded us:
‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’ ”
48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord.
And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

com7fy8 · Wednesday at 11:05 PM

"he is a Jew who is one inwardly" > in Romans 2:29

Minister Monardo · Wednesday at 11:29 PM

Romans 14:4 Who are you to judge another’s servant?
To his own master he stands or falls.
Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.

Dan Perez · Thursday at 12:47 PM

Minister Monardo said:
The answer is in the rest of the verse that you failed to quote.

As the Lord was addressing Israel at the time,
He anticipated the soon to be grafted in Gentiles, by faith.
If you need more verses to support the notion, you don't even need the NT.
Isaiah Forty-Nine:
6 Indeed He says,
‘It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob,
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.’

So what is the verse where you wrote ,HE anticipated that soon to be grafted in GENTILES , by faith ?

And Isa 49:6 God is speaking to Israel , period .

And , I will also give YOU a light to the GENTILES and Israel failed as it is written in Acts 28:25-28 !

dan p

Minister Monardo · Thursday at 1:00 PM

Dan Perez said:
Isa 49:6 God is speaking to Israel , period .

And , I will also give YOU a light to the GENTILES and Israel failed as it is written in Acts 28:25-28 !

dan p

So is Isaiah 53 speaking to Israel, period?
Under what authority do you deny the Messianic nature of Isaiah 49?
John 5:39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life;
and these are they which testify of Me.

Dan Perez said:
So what is the verse where you wrote ,HE anticipated that soon to be grafted in GENTILES , by faith ?

Short memory eh?
John 10:
14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own.
15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice;
and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

Remember verse, 16, the one you misquoted in your very first response. You can use an authoritative tone as much as you want, I am not the least bit moved to agree with you, period.
In fact, I don't think you know what you are talking about at all. Not that does any harm to you, just letting you know why I will discontinue following the fruitless thread of someone who already has the answers. Peace on you and yours today and always

Dan Perez · Thursday at 8:19 PM

Minister Monardo said:
So is Isaiah 53 speaking to Israel, period?
Under what authority do you deny the Messianic nature of Isaiah 49?
John 5:39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life;
and these are they which testify of Me.

Short memory eh?
John 10:
14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own.
15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice;
and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

Remember verse, 16, the one you misquoted in your very first response. You can use an authoritative tone as much as you want, I am not the least bit moved to agree with you, period.
In fact, I don't think you know what you are talking about at all. Not that does any harm to you, just letting you know why I will discontinue following the fruitless thread of someone who already has the answers. Peace on you and yours today and always

AND I have never seen a verse where the BODY of CHRIST are called SHEEP and if I missed it would like to

see that word .

And I do know what Gal 3:28 says we ARE // ESTE , is in the Greek , PRESENT TENSE , we ARE when save ALWAYS

IN CHRIST and NOT SHEEP

And 1 Cor 12::13 when saved we PLACED into ONE BODY .

In verse 1 Cor 12::15 we are Christ FOOT .

In verse his EYES

In verse his EYES , his sense of HEARING and his SENSE of SMELL

And what means here we PART OF CHRIST , meaning we are CHRIST !!

And as verse 18 says But now God PLACED the members , each ONE JUST AS HE WIKSHED .

dan p

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-05-02T04:37:08-0500

Dan Perez said:
AND we do know that Israel and JUDAH are know two NATON and in Eze 37 are each a STICK

# 1 We do knw that Christ will make the TWO STICKS , ONE STICK .

# 2 And I says that it is ISRAEL and JUDAH will be BORN AGAIN !!

# 3 And many believe that say that they BORN AGAIN ??

What say you !

dan p

Paul said all of Israel will be saved, the majority of which were/are even enemies of the Gospel in Romans 11:26=32

Paul also says God Himself made them enemies in Romans 11:8, by putting a spirit of stupor or slumber upon them. Even though they are all God's children, Deut. 14:1, Psalm 82:6, Matt. 23:9

This means they are saved after death

Clare73 · 2025-05-02T10:24:11-0500

Dan Perez said:
AND I have never seen a verse where the BODY of CHRIST are called SHEEP

And I've never seen a verse that states, "God is sovereign."

Jeff Saunders · 2025-05-02T12:46:44-0500

Dan Perez said:
And who are the other SHEEP with a verse , please ??

dan p

I wonder if part of the other sheep were people like in China.
If you look at the history of China they were a nation that followed God 4000 years ago, the name was Shandi ( not sure of the spelling) but the whole nation worshiped Shandi and all that they taught was the same as the OT God but without the sacrifices, when Jesus was crucified the Emperor told the nation Shandi has a son and he had been sacrificed for all and they changed what they were doing to follow the change. They used different names but the teachings a practice were very close to the same.
If you study the Chinese characters the bible story is in the characters.

Dan Perez · 2025-05-02T14:28:20-0500

Jeff Saunders said:
I wonder if part of the other sheep were people like in China.
If you look at the history of China they were a nation that followed God 4000 years ago, the name was Shandi ( not sure of the spelling) but the whole nation worshiped Shandi and all that they taught was the same as the OT God but without the sacrifices, when Jesus was crucified the Emperor told the nation Shandi has a son and he had been sacrificed for all and they changed what they were doing to follow the change. They used different names but the teachings a practice were very close to the same.
If you study the Chinese characters the bible story is in the characters.

And I just have a hard TIME to study my bible to day !

dan p

Clare73 · 2025-05-02T14:41:23-0500

Dan Perez said:
And did not and back up to Rom 11:7 and 8 !

Which does not negate Ro 11:16-23.

Dan Perez said:
verse 7 What then ??
What ISRAEL seeks after , it did not OBTAIN but the elect did and the rest were HARDENED '

Why did you leave out that same did obtain it?

They are the ones in whom the promise to Israel is fulfilled.

Dan Perez said:
Verse 8 , Just as it was written , God gave them a spirit of STUPOR , eyes to see NOT // ME , means that Israel will
never SEE , because the GREEK word ME , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE will never ever see until Israel and
JUDAH will again become ONE STICK as written in EZE 37 !!
and EARS to HEAR NOT , UNTIL THIS DAY >

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