NATO Hysteria

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

Since our polarization, we don't listen to the other tribe's leaders' words, so we are manipulated into fear. But if NATO keeps acting like a fool like all these past years, maybe Trump will do a realignment.

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Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

Maybe the realignment will be with the countries that want peace instead of war in Ukraine.

High Fidelity · Apr 5, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Maybe the realignment will be with the countries that want peace instead of war in Ukraine.

Such as

Aryeh Jay · Apr 5, 2025

High Fidelity said:
Such as

Like Russia, they want a peace of Ukraine.

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

High Fidelity said:
Such as

If the USA backs out, all those that follow. I've heard Italy and Hungary speak negatively.

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

Aryeh Jay said:
Like Russia, they want a peace of Ukraine.

Zelensky is playing into Russia's hand by refusing to seriously talk peace. Sadly, the longer the fight, the more land he loses. He's getting some bad advice from some countries who want to continue the war.

Pommer · Apr 5, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Zelensky is playing into Russia's hand by refusing to seriously talk peace.

Russia: “It’s your own fault that I have to keep hitting you!” ?

Laodicean60 said:
Sadly, the longer the fight, the more land he loses. He's getting some bad advice from some countries who want to continue the war.

Wars of conquest are illegal on their face.

MyOwnSockPuppet · Apr 5, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Zelensky is playing into Russia's hand by refusing to seriously talk peace. Sadly, the longer the fight, the more land he loses. He's getting some bad advice from some countries who want to continue the war.

Kryvyi Rih yesterday, what is being reported as a "high precision (ballistic) missile strike" targetting a restaurant hosting a meeting of "unit commanders" and "western instructors" killing up to 85 by the side that launched the missile airbursted over a children's playground (going on what was seen on the ground by independent journalists). 18 dead including 9 children, dozens wounded.

Clearly a 4D chess move as far as negotiating a ceasefire.

Rubio has said himself that he will know "in a matter of weeks, not months" whether Vladimir Putin is serious about peace and a ceasefire in Ukraine

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

Pommer said:
Wars of conquest are illegal on their face.

Yes, they are, but the USA backed Russia into a corner.

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

MyOwnSockPuppet said:
Rubio has said himself that he will know "in a matter of weeks, not months" whether Vladimir Putin is serious about peace and a ceasefire in Ukraine

The war over there is nasty, with both sides killing POWs. Ceasefire they agreed not to attack energy infrastructure and a day later Ukraine violated the agreement. Now there are rumors that EU mercenaries bombed it. Maybe the EU oligarchs don't want the war to end. It's a mess and needs to stop.

Pommer · Apr 5, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Yes, they are, but the USA backed Russia into a corner.

The largest nation in the world needs more room?

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

Pommer said:
The largest nation in the world needs more room?

Wrong again.

johansen · Apr 5, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Reports That Trump Will Pull Out Of NATO Are Pure 'Hysteria': Rubio

Do you remember when putin laughed and said "no we are not talking about that".

Well he did.. invade Ukraine a few months later

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

johansen said:
Do you remember when putin laughed and said "no we are not talking about that".

Well he did.. invade Ukraine a few months later

Not really. Do you have a source? NATO was hell bent on having Ukraine in NATO, and here we are. My country saddens me for our expansionism.

Pommer · Apr 5, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Wrong again.

Russia isn’t the largest country?
Has Canada become a (US) State already!?

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

Pommer said:
Russia isn’t the largest country?

wrong

Pommer said:
Has Canada become a (US) State already!?

No

Pommer said:
largest nation in the world needs more room?

Laodicean60 said:
Wrong again.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Apr 5, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Zelensky is playing into Russia's hand by refusing to seriously talk peace. Sadly, the longer the fight, the more land he loses. He's getting some bad advice from some countries who want to continue the war.

Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia needs to stop their invasion. It's all Russia fault.

Laodicean60 · Apr 5, 2025

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
Russia invaded Ukraine.

Yes

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
Russia needs to stop their invasion.

Both need to stop.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
It's all Russia fault.

Questionable.

johansen · Apr 5, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Not really. Do you have a source? NATO was hell bent on having Ukraine in NATO, and here we are. My country saddens me for our expansionism

It was from a pr event he gave in russian about 2 months before the war began. Putin laughs at the question of invading ukraine and replies along the lines of "oh no we are not talking about that".

Point is... Yes american could pull out of nato...while denying the possibility up to the day of.

Pommer · Apr 6, 2025

johansen said:
It was from a pr event he gave in russian about 2 months before the war began. Putin laughs at the question of invading ukraine and replies along the lines of "oh no we are not talking about that".

Point is... Yes american could pull out of nato...while denying the possibility up to the day of.

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