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Girls Forced to Undress In Front Of Transgirl in School

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DaisyDay said:
I hope I am being very clear. You continue to lie about my views, substituting your own insisting they are mine when I have already told you plainly that they are not. This is gaslighting as well as straw-manning.

This is going in circles: 1) I state my view; 2) you insist that if I think one thing that I must and do think another thing; 3) I point out that you are incorrect on my view and why; 4) repeat 2 & 3 ad infinitum.

I am not the topic of this thread - a middle school child is, supposedly.
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Yes you have stated your view. And your viewpoint allows for men to enter women's spaces and your viewpoint also allows for men to undress around women. How do I know? Because that's what happens. And you have to accept responsibility for what happens when you support something like this.

Once again I quote you:Yes, I think it is okay for a transwoman or transgirl to use the facilities as they are intended to be used.

An example would be that men should be able to shower with women in a locker room. After all that is the intended use of rhe shower. And you say the woman has to put up with that. Then when a man assaults a woman there you don't get to say, "well I don't support assault, so I accept no responsibility for that." Sorry that's a very foreseeable consequence to your position. Not to mention the fact, maybe the woman doesn't want the man there. But you put the man ahead of the woman.

And when you say that the middle school girls should put up with the boy there you most certainly are putting a mentally ill boy or a pervert ahead of the girls. How is this not true? Explain.

I quoted you so I didn't make anything up. Its what you said. And you are entitled to your opinion. But your opinion if made policy or law has consequences for women and girls. Bodily and psychologically.
 
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rjs330 said:
No you aren't. But your arguments are. And that is being addressed by the poster.
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Who is "the poster", you?
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After all you addressed me when you accused me of mansplaining.
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Yes, I addressed you and you addressed me - we've gone back and forth. Is that a problem?

I mentioned that your explaining my own views to me WRONG are mansplaining. I am not the only one in this thread to apply that term to that action. Maybe stop doing that?
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But thats okay by me. It wasn't true so I'm not bothered by it.
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I didn't get the impression that you would be or were bothered by it. So why bring it up?
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Your arguments are.
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My arguments are what? Bothered by it? Or true? Either way, not a lot of sense...
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After all they are your arguments and you are one making them and spinning them.
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Huh? My arguments are what I say they are. Aren't all arguments spin?
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Who else's are they if not yours?
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That's the problem, isn't it. I am make my arguments; you twist them into weird pretzels that bear little resemblance to the original and tell me that they are what I really meant - when they aren't.
 
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rjs330 said:
Yes you have stated your view. And your viewpoint allows for men to enter women's spaces and your viewpoint also allows for men to undress around women. How do I know? Because that's what happens. And you have to accept responsibility for what happens when you support something like this.

Once again I quote youYes, I think it is okay for a transwoman or transgirl to use the facilities as they are intended to be used.

An example would be that men should be able to shower with women in a locker room. After all that is the intended use of rhe shower. And you say the woman has to put up with that. Then when a man assaults a woman there you don't get to say, "well I don't support assault, so I accept no responsibility for that." Sorry that's a very foreseeable consequence to your position. Not to mention the fact, maybe the woman doesn't want the man there. But you put the man ahead of the woman.

And when you say that the middle school girls should put up with the boy there you most certainly are putting a mentally ill boy or a pervert ahead of the girls. How is this not true? Explain.

I quoted you so I didn't make anything up. Its what you said. And you are entitled to your opinion. But your opinion if made policy or law has consequences for women and girls. Bodily and psychologically.
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You got one quote correct; the rest is twisting.

Have a good day.
 
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rjs330 said:
Yes you have stated your view. And your viewpoint allows for men to enter women's spaces and your viewpoint also allows for men to undress around women. How do I know? Because that's what happens. And you have to accept responsibility for what happens when you support something like this.

Once again I quote you:Yes, I think it is okay for a transwoman or transgirl to use the facilities as they are intended to be used.

An example would be that men should be able to shower with women in a locker room. After all that is the intended use of rhe shower. And you say the woman has to put up with that. Then when a man assaults a woman there you don't get to say, "well I don't support assault, so I accept no responsibility for that." Sorry that's a very foreseeable consequence to your position. Not to mention the fact, maybe the woman doesn't want the man there. But you put the man ahead of the woman.

And when you say that the middle school girls should put up with the boy there you most certainly are putting a mentally ill boy or a pervert ahead of the girls. How is this not true? Explain.

I quoted you so I didn't make anything up. Its what you said. And you are entitled to your opinion. But your opinion if made policy or law has consequences for women and girls. Bodily and psychologically.
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I mean, what about woman who suffered extreme trauma at the hands of a man? Let's say they were once raped by a man in the bathroom. How would it be fair for that woman if she could nolonger feel safe in a woman's bathroom because she is afraid that a man might be in there?
 
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DaisyDay said:
I mentioned that your explaining my own views to me WRONG are mansplaining. I am not the only one in this thread to apply that term to that action. Maybe stop doing that?
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Nope. I quoted you, so I've addressed your views accurately. If you think that's mansplaining then I don't know what to say.
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Who is "the poster", you?
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Well since you asked....
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I didn't get the impression that you would be or were bothered by it. So why bring it up?
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Simply addressing your issues with accusing people of getting personal. Movin' on.
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Huh? My arguments are what I say they are.
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Your arguments are what you write. Thats all we have to judge by. And your arguments are what we quote. We also like to point out the faults and consequences of your arguments.
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you twist them into weird pretzels that bear little resemblance to the original and tell me that they are what I really meant - when they aren't.
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Nope, I just let you know the faults of them and the results. Like i said earlier, there arw serious consequences to women from your arguments and since you argued to allow men in women's spaces like that, you have to accept rhe consequences for arguing for it.

Which you don't seem to want to accept as the result of what you support.
 
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Oompa Loompa said:
I mean, what about woman who suffered extreme trauma at the hands of a man? Let's say they were once raped by a man in the bathroom. How would it be fair for that woman if she could nolonger feel safe in a woman's bathroom because she is afraid that a man might be in there?
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It doesn't matter what the woman feels, only what the man feels. Or in the OP it doeant matter what the girls feel, just the boy.
 
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