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People should be allowed to wear a MAGA hat without harassment. Great someone captured the actions of one of the leftists who preach peace and joy, see the video:

Anyone who would attack someone for wearing a legitimate item expressing free speech deserves fully to faceplant. Also, it is so dangerous and reckless to engage in such conduct in the subway. The presence of fast-moving trains powered by an electrified third rail, and the lack of platform screen doors anywhere on the NYC subway system, makes tripping and falling into the path of trains a real danger (also lately, due to the increased crime, of being pushed - I believe that NYC really needs to re-establish the famed Transit Police department that used to exist to secure just the Subway, as railway systems have unique operations that require special police tactics, and for this reason Amtrak and the major US railroads and several other cities have transit police, as does the UK, which has a national force, the British Transport Police (which in London patrols the railway stations and the Underground, coopearting with the Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard) and the City of London Police (who are responsible for the 1 square mile large area that is the ancient City of London, surrounding St. Paul’s Cathedral).
 
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Anyone who would attack someone for wearing a legitimate item expressing free speech deserves fully to faceplant. Also, it is so dangerous and reckless to engage in such conduct in the subway. The presence of fast-moving trains powered by an electrified third rail, and the lack of platform screen doors anywhere on the NYC subway system, makes tripping and falling into the path of trains a real danger (also lately, due to the increased crime, of being pushed - I believe that NYC really needs to re-establish the famed Transit Police department that used to exist to secure just the Subway, as railway systems have unique operations that require special police tactics, and for this reason Amtrak and the major US railroads and several other cities have transit police, as does the UK, which has a national force, the British Transport Police (which in London patrols the railway stations and the Underground, coopearting with the Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard) and the City of London Police (who are responsible for the 1 square mile large area that is the ancient City of London, surrounding St. Paul’s Cathedral).
I agree. Here we have an extremely liberal populace and were the most dangerous light rail transit in the country, the last figures I saw for crime were from two to four times the crime per mile of the next highest city, way ahead of Houston, Los Angeles and San Jose. Here they don't have turnstiles because of the height of track (poor planning) and transit stop lights cause traffic jams. But yes they need to change the progressive approach to crime and put transit police at all locations, there have been recent improvements but now they are building more connections rather than fixing the problem. NYC should also go back to arresting those who jump the turnstiles, those jumpers tend to commit a lot of the crime on the subways. Have a fruitful feast day of the Annunciation of the Theotokos.

 
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I agree. Here we have an extremely liberal populace and were the most dangerous light rail transit in the country, the last figures I saw for crime were from two to four times the crime per mile of the next highest city, way ahead of Houston, Los Angeles and San Jose. Here they don't have turnstiles because of the height of track (poor planning) and transit stop lights cause traffic jams. But yes they need to change the progressive approach to crime and put transit police at all locations, there have been recent improvements but now they are building more connections rather than fixing the problem. NYC should also go back to arresting those who jump the turnstiles, those jumpers tend to commit a lot of the crime on the subways. Have a fruitful feast day of the Annunciation of the Theotokos.


You too! Have a blessed Annunciation!

By the way, did you know that historically, in some ancient Christian lands, March 25th was reckoned to be the start of the civil and ecclesiastical year? As opposed to 1 September in the Byzantine Rite, the equivalent in the Coptic RIte, or the Feast of the Renewal of the Church in the West Syriac Rite, or the start of Advent in the Roman Rite.

At any rate, the Annunciation is of extreme importance and is regarded by all traditional churches as one of the most important feasts.

In the Eastern Orthodox Church, if Easter falls on March 25th, the feast is called a Kyriopascha and is celebrated with special joy. The last Kyriopascha on the Julian Calendar was in 1991 and the next one on the Gregorian Calendar, which is used by the Finnish Orthodox and the Estonian Orthodox and some Eastern Catholics, will be in 2038.

Unfortunately the Revised Julian Calendar makes a Kyriopascha impossible, so only those churches which use either the Gregorian or Julian calendar can celebrate a Kyriopascha.
 
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You too! Have a blessed Annunciation!

By the way, did you know that historically, in some ancient Christian lands, March 25th was reckoned to be the start of the civil and ecclesiastical year? As opposed to 1 September in the Byzantine Rite, the equivalent in the Coptic RIte, or the Feast of the Renewal of the Church in the West Syriac Rite, or the start of Advent in the Roman Rite.

At any rate, the Annunciation is of extreme importance and is regarded by all traditional churches as one of the most important feasts.

In the Eastern Orthodox Church, if Easter falls on March 25th, the feast is called a Kyriopascha and is celebrated with special joy. The last Kyriopascha on the Julian Calendar was in 1991 and the next one on the Gregorian Calendar, which is used by the Finnish Orthodox and the Estonian Orthodox and some Eastern Catholics, will be in 2038.

Unfortunately the Revised Julian Calendar makes a Kyriopascha impossible, so only those churches which use either the Gregorian or Julian calendar can celebrate a Kyriopascha.
Usually for us when feast days fall on the same day it is a matter of which takes precedence--good idea to make it a special day. Since the Annunciation is the very first mystery of our Rosary I have meditated on that holy event quite often.
 
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Usually for us when feast days fall on the same day it is a matter of which takes precedence--good idea to make it a special day. Since the Annunciation is the very first mystery of our Rosary I have meditated on that holy event quite often.

Indeed, the Roman Rite has traditionally always had an robust system for determining which feast day should take precedence. Before the 1969 reforms, this had feasts with different classifications, such as doubles, semi-doubles and so on.

The Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Rite Catholics also have this, in that the Feasts of our Lord have the highest priority, and then we group the other holy days into those pertaining to the Theotokos (two of which overlap with Dominical feasts, namely Candlemas and the Annunication), of the Holy Apostles, of the Holy Cross (such as the third Sunday in Lent and the Exaltation of the Cross on the 14th of September), and of martyrs, confessors, holy hierarchs and ascetics, and these along with the time of year influence the liturgical colors in the Orthodox churches, albeit in different ways (the Typikon only specifies whether light or dark vestments are to be used, and so for those churches that have an organized system of liturgical color, it amounts to a jurisdictional, diocesan or even parish-based tradition, with variations including, for example, whether to use white vestments only on Pascha after changing out of purple, crimson or black (another decision to be made) on Holy Saturday, or whether after Paschal Matins to switch to red vestments, and this variation exists even within the Russian Orthodox (ROCOR tends to use white vestments only, whereas the OCA and MP tend to use white and then red, but this is not universal and really depends on the parish). Green vestments are traditionally used on Palm Sunday, Pentecost and All Saints Day (the Sunday after Pentecost, since Pentecost is both the feast of the decent of the Holy Spirit and the feast of the Trinity in the Byzantine Rite, whereas in the Roman Rite the two were separated into two different feasts, much like how in all churches except the Armenian church the Nativity and Epiphany or Baptism of Christ were separated into two feasts in the fourth century), but are also used in some churches for the feasts of confessors and ascetics, but amusingly green is often very seldom used, being used in some churches only as frequently as the Roman Rite uses rose vestments. In most churches the default liturgical color is gold.

However, the Byzantine Rite, being deserving of the name Byzantine for its complexity, also features fairly elaborate rubrics for celebrating two events when they converge. A complete liturgical library in the Orthodox Church might include around 20 folio-sized books, such as the books for each tone of the Octoechos, that constitute the main hymnal, and then the Monthly Menaion which contains the propers for each day in the month, and the shorter summary Festal Menaion, and the General Menaion which one can fall back on for a feast if one doesn’t have rubrics specifically for it, and then the Triodion, which contains the hymns and services for pre-Lent, Lent and Holy Week, up to the Vesperal Divine Liturgy on Holy Saturday, which is extremely similiar to the pre-1955 Roman Rite Paschal Vigil Mass, which before 1955 featured 12 Old Testament prophecies, which like the 14 of the Byzantine Rite, were read while baptisms were performed of catechumens, and which was celebrated in the morning, like the Byzantine Rite equivalent, although there were some differences, for example, in Slavic Orthodox churches the black vestments and paraments of Good Friday are removed at the Vesperal Divine Liturgy and replaced with white, for Paschal Matins, as mentioned above.

At any rate, we have all these liturgical books, but there is one book that controls everything, the Typikon, and it can vary between jurisdictions, between monasteries (since in a monastery it will also include the monastic rule, so it functions both as a liturgical Ordo and as something like the Rule of St. Benedict, which also included liturgical instructions but not to this extent), and even between parishes. But regardless of which typikon one is using (the two most common styles being those based on the Studite-Sabaite typikon, used on Mount Athos and in most Slavic churches, and the Violakis typikon, used by most Greek and Arabic churches, which reflects common practices in those parishes in the 19th century. There is also the Cathedral Typikon, which is no longer in use but which has been reconstructed and its services recorded by Dr. Alexander Lingas, the brilliant leader of the choir Capella Romana, who has also recorded several albums of interest specifically to Eastern Catholics, for example, several recordings of places where the East meets the West in terms of church music, such as on Cyprus, where the Roman Catholic churches used something close to Byzantine chant and the Orthodox something closer to Gregorian chant, although sadly he has not yet done Milan or Toledo - Ambrosian chant and Mozarabic Chant are often remarked upon for being like a fusion of Eastern and Western liturgical sounds.

Much of the Typikon, in any case, pertains to what to do when two feasts fall on the same day, and in many cases, where the feasts are particularly important, such as Pascha and the Annunciation, they are combined. If one uses a typical Studite-Sabaite typikon, because of the different liturgical cycles such as the eight week cycle of the Octoechos, the fixed feasts, the movable feasts, and the eleven Matins Gospels cycle (eleven lections describing the post-resurrection appearances of our Lord, read at Matins except when there is a proper Gospel to be read instead, which is rare), even though all the hymns are pre-selected, no liturgy will be exactly the same in terms of prescribed services for at least 537 years, because of the variations caused by the interactions of these different systems.
 
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She's lucky the guy decided to run. Next time she tries it the person may fight back, and she will find herself falling in the opposite direction

She also is really lucky given that this did occur on a subway - she could have tripped exiting the car. Its unlikely she would have been dragged, but if the conductor was not paying attention, that has been known to happen. People also, as I mentioned earlier, fall on tracks or are pushed onto tracks, which can be fatal due to the third rail, although the tracks of the NYC subway are not as hazardous of those of the London Underground which has a four rail system (and if you make contact with either energized rail and one of the non-energized rail, you’re going to get several amps at 640 V going through your body). When a “One Under” happens on the Underground, the drivers are trained to issue a mayday call to turn off the traction current, which frequently means the difference between life and death. However, because subway trains cannot stop on a dime, the loss of limbs is not uncommon. The Underground is also equipped with pits in the stations into which people who fall onto the tracks can fall, reducing the risk of being hit by a train, but as far as I am aware the New York Subway does not have these kinds of pits (nor would they be possible at, for example, the many elevated stations).

Fighting anyone on a train or anywhere near a train is a spectacularly bad idea.
 
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Indeed, the Roman Rite has traditionally always had an robust system for determining which feast day should take precedence. Before the 1969 reforms, this had feasts with different classifications, such as doubles, semi-doubles and so on.

The Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Rite Catholics also have this, in that the Feasts of our Lord have the highest priority, and then we group the other holy days into those pertaining to the Theotokos (two of which overlap with Dominical feasts, namely Candlemas and the Annunication), of the Holy Apostles, of the Holy Cross (such as the third Sunday in Lent and the Exaltation of the Cross on the 14th of September), and of martyrs, confessors, holy hierarchs and ascetics, and these along with the time of year influence the liturgical colors in the Orthodox churches, albeit in different ways (the Typikon only specifies whether light or dark vestments are to be used, and so for those churches that have an organized system of liturgical color, it amounts to a jurisdictional, diocesan or even parish-based tradition, with variations including, for example, whether to use white vestments only on Pascha after changing out of purple, crimson or black (another decision to be made) on Holy Saturday, or whether after Paschal Matins to switch to red vestments, and this variation exists even within the Russian Orthodox (ROCOR tends to use white vestments only, whereas the OCA and MP tend to use white and then red, but this is not universal and really depends on the parish). Green vestments are traditionally used on Palm Sunday, Pentecost and All Saints Day (the Sunday after Pentecost, since Pentecost is both the feast of the decent of the Holy Spirit and the feast of the Trinity in the Byzantine Rite, whereas in the Roman Rite the two were separated into two different feasts, much like how in all churches except the Armenian church the Nativity and Epiphany or Baptism of Christ were separated into two feasts in the fourth century), but are also used in some churches for the feasts of confessors and ascetics, but amusingly green is often very seldom used, being used in some churches only as frequently as the Roman Rite uses rose vestments. In most churches the default liturgical color is gold.

However, the Byzantine Rite, being deserving of the name Byzantine for its complexity, also features fairly elaborate rubrics for celebrating two events when they converge. A complete liturgical library in the Orthodox Church might include around 20 folio-sized books, such as the books for each tone of the Octoechos, that constitute the main hymnal, and then the Monthly Menaion which contains the propers for each day in the month, and the shorter summary Festal Menaion, and the General Menaion which one can fall back on for a feast if one doesn’t have rubrics specifically for it, and then the Triodion, which contains the hymns and services for pre-Lent, Lent and Holy Week, up to the Vesperal Divine Liturgy on Holy Saturday, which is extremely similiar to the pre-1955 Roman Rite Paschal Vigil Mass, which before 1955 featured 12 Old Testament prophecies, which like the 14 of the Byzantine Rite, were read while baptisms were performed of catechumens, and which was celebrated in the morning, like the Byzantine Rite equivalent, although there were some differences, for example, in Slavic Orthodox churches the black vestments and paraments of Good Friday are removed at the Vesperal Divine Liturgy and replaced with white, for Paschal Matins, as mentioned above.

At any rate, we have all these liturgical books, but there is one book that controls everything, the Typikon, and it can vary between jurisdictions, between monasteries (since in a monastery it will also include the monastic rule, so it functions both as a liturgical Ordo and as something like the Rule of St. Benedict, which also included liturgical instructions but not to this extent), and even between parishes. But regardless of which typikon one is using (the two most common styles being those based on the Studite-Sabaite typikon, used on Mount Athos and in most Slavic churches, and the Violakis typikon, used by most Greek and Arabic churches, which reflects common practices in those parishes in the 19th century. There is also the Cathedral Typikon, which is no longer in use but which has been reconstructed and its services recorded by Dr. Alexander Lingas, the brilliant leader of the choir Capella Romana, who has also recorded several albums of interest specifically to Eastern Catholics, for example, several recordings of places where the East meets the West in terms of church music, such as on Cyprus, where the Roman Catholic churches used something close to Byzantine chant and the Orthodox something closer to Gregorian chant, although sadly he has not yet done Milan or Toledo - Ambrosian chant and Mozarabic Chant are often remarked upon for being like a fusion of Eastern and Western liturgical sounds.

Much of the Typikon, in any case, pertains to what to do when two feasts fall on the same day, and in many cases, where the feasts are particularly important, such as Pascha and the Annunciation, they are combined. If one uses a typical Studite-Sabaite typikon, because of the different liturgical cycles such as the eight week cycle of the Octoechos, the fixed feasts, the movable feasts, and the eleven Matins Gospels cycle (eleven lections describing the post-resurrection appearances of our Lord, read at Matins except when there is a proper Gospel to be read instead, which is rare), even though all the hymns are pre-selected, no liturgy will be exactly the same in terms of prescribed services for at least 537 years, because of the variations caused by the interactions of these different systems.
I did not know of the Catholic feast day policy before 1969. Nor had I heard of the Typikon. Thanks for the information!
 
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I did not know of the Catholic feast day policy before 1969. Nor had I heard of the Typikon. Thanks for the information!

The Typikon is an important part of life for the Byzantine Rite Catholics such as the Ukrainian Greek Catholics, Belarussian Greek Catholics, Russian Greek Catholics, and Melkite Catholics and others who are in immediate peril, as we speak, due to war in the case of Belarus, Ukraine and Russia, which pits these Catholics up against each other along with Ruthenian Greek Catholics who also live in the conflict zone, and in the case of the Melkite Greek Catholics in Syria, along with their Antiochian Orthodox and Syriac Orthodox brethren, genocidal persecution.
 
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