After Trump sends gang members to El Salvador, Venezuela agrees to accept US deportation flights

Valletta · Mar 23, 2025

"In order to ensure the return of our countrymen with the protection of their human rights, we have agreed with the US government to resume the repatriation of Venezuelan migrants with a first flight tomorrow," Venezuelan top negotiator Jorge Rodriguez said in a statement.

Venezuela agrees to again accept US deportation flights

Venezuela announced Saturday it had reached an agreement with Washington to accept additional deportation flights from the United States, one week after more than 200 Venezuelans accused of being gang members were sent to El Salvador.Maduro said Saturday that those men, "who never committed...

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On the one hand it saves the U.S. money, on the other hand Venezuela can bide their time and try to get the criminals back into the U.S. the next time the U.S. elects a liberal for president.

Jermayn · Mar 23, 2025

This is interesting. I wonder how this will affect U.S./Venezuelan relations? Or the people of Venezuela's view of their government?

Maria Billingsley · Mar 23, 2025

Valletta said:
"In order to ensure the return of our countrymen with the protection of their human rights, we have agreed with the US government to resume the repatriation of Venezuelan migrants with a first flight tomorrow," Venezuelan top negotiator Jorge Rodriguez said in a statement.

Venezuela agrees to again accept US deportation flights

Venezuela announced Saturday it had reached an agreement with Washington to accept additional deportation flights from the United States, one week after more than 200 Venezuelans accused of being gang members were sent to El Salvador.Maduro said Saturday that those men, "who never committed...

www.yahoo.com

On the one hand it saves the U.S. money, on the other hand Venezuela can bide their time and try to get the criminals back into the U.S. the next time the U.S. elects a liberal for president.

Or, Venezuela actually cares more about human rights than the current United States Administration.

ThatRobGuy · Mar 23, 2025

Maria Billingsley said:
Or, Venezuela actually cares more about human rights than the current United States Administration.

Do they?

Nicolás Maduro - Wikipedia

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Or does the Maduro regime (who has a connection with the Tren de Aragua gang) know that they are sitting ducks in a prison that has a rival gang presence that outnumbers them?

If an authority figure questionably had some sort of ties to the Medellin cartel, and some other country intentionally stuck a bunch of foot soldiers in a prison where they're outnumbered 100:1 by Cali cartel members...that authority figure trying to get them back in their own country under the guise of "we believe in human rights" would be a claim that would draw skepticism.

Hans Blaster · Mar 23, 2025

Valletta said:
On the one hand it saves the U.S. money, on the other hand Venezuela can bide their time and try to get the criminals back into the U.S. the next time the U.S. elects a liberal for president.

O good grief. This conspiracy theory is grade A balonium.

ThatRobGuy · Mar 23, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
O good grief. This conspiracy theory is grade A balonium.

A better "more compelling conspiracy theory" (if there is such a thing) would tie into what I mentioned.

There's been questions about ties between this gang and the Maduro regime. (by way of the "Cartel de los Soles")

And there's pretty solid evidence of the links between Maduro and that particular cartel. (he's appointed known members to senior level positions in his regime)

The prevailing theory is that it was Tren de Aragua that was responsible for the assassination of one of Maduro's political rivals while he was seeking refuge in Chile, for which, the Chilean government is still trying to get certain members extradited back to Chile to face trial.

So if there's a connection between Maduro and that gang, and that gang (via their affiliation with Cartel de los Soles) did Maduro a favor...perhaps the Cartel wanting to get some of their foot soldiers back (and making sure they don't end up in a prison, outnumbered by a rival gang) is them calling in their "you owe us one" favor of the Venezuelan regime.

DaisyDay · Mar 23, 2025

Valletta said:
"In order to ensure the return of our countrymen with the protection of their human rights, we have agreed with the US government to resume the repatriation of Venezuelan migrants with a first flight tomorrow," Venezuelan top negotiator Jorge Rodriguez said in a statement.

Venezuela agrees to again accept US deportation flights

Venezuela announced Saturday it had reached an agreement with Washington to accept additional deportation flights from the United States, one week after more than 200 Venezuelans accused of being gang members were sent to El Salvador.Maduro said Saturday that those men, "who never committed...

www.yahoo.com

On the one hand it saves the U.S. money, on the other hand Venezuela can bide their time and try to get the criminals back into the U.S. the next time the U.S. elects a liberal for president.

Doesn't this cost Homeland Security money, the kickback from the El Salvadorian prison/labor camps? People are saying the forced labor is quite lucrative.

Valletta · Mar 23, 2025

DaisyDay said:
Doesn't this cost Homeland Security money, the kickback from the El Salvadorian prison/labor camps? People are saying the forced labor is quite lucrative.

If you have any information whatsoever that someone within the U.S. government is getting a kickback please turn it over to the FBI.

Hans Blaster · Mar 24, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
A better "more compelling conspiracy theory" (if there is such a thing) would tie into what I mentioned.

There's been questions about ties between this gang and the Maduro regime. (by way of the "Cartel de los Soles")

And there's pretty solid evidence of the links between Maduro and that particular cartel. (he's appointed known members to senior level positions in his regime)

The prevailing theory is that it was Tren de Aragua that was responsible for the assassination of one of Maduro's political rivals while he was seeking refuge in Chile, for which, the Chilean government is still trying to get certain members extradited back to Chile to face trial.

So if there's a connection between Maduro and that gang, and that gang (via their affiliation with Cartel de los Soles) did Maduro a favor...perhaps the Cartel wanting to get some of their foot soldiers back (and making sure they don't end up in a prison, outnumbered by a rival gang) is them calling in their "you owe us one" favor of the Venezuelan regime.

Even if I buy everything you are selling about Maduro and TdA this: "on the other hand Venezuela can bide their time and try to get the criminals back into the U.S. the next time the U.S. elects a liberal for president." is still a unhinged conspiracy theory.

Valletta · Mar 24, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
Even if I buy everything you are selling about Maduro and TdA this: "on the other hand Venezuela can bide their time and try to get the criminals back into the U.S. the next time the U.S. elects a liberal for president." is still a unhinged conspiracy theory.

Venezuela is not our friend.

The IbanezerScrooge · Mar 24, 2025

Valletta said:
If you have any information whatsoever that someone within the U.S. government is getting a kickback please turn it over to the FBI.

Wouldn't matter. They've already said they won't prosecute a sitting president.

"THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!"

rjs330 · Mar 24, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
Even if I buy everything you are selling about Maduro and TdA this: "on the other hand Venezuela can bide their time and try to get the criminals back into the U.S. the next time the U.S. elects a liberal for president." is still a unhinged conspiracy theory.

How do you know? If he really is tied in with cartel and these gangs, wouldn't it make perfect sense to send them to the US? If they are involved in selling drugs it would make perfect sense to have their people here running the operations.
It makes perfect sense.

rjs330 · Mar 24, 2025

DaisyDay said:
Doesn't this cost Homeland Security money, the kickback from the El Salvadorian prison/labor camps? People are saying the forced labor is quite lucrative.

Speaking of conspiracy theories.

Hans Blaster · Mar 24, 2025

rjs330 said:
How do you know? If he really is tied in with cartel and these gangs, wouldn't it make perfect sense to send them to the US? If they are involved in selling drugs it would make perfect sense to have their people here running the operations.
It makes perfect sense.

Because the "conspiracy theory" is presented without any evidence. Adding more of your speculation to theirs does not make evidence.

ThatRobGuy · Mar 24, 2025

rjs330 said:
How do you know? If he really is tied in with cartel and these gangs, wouldn't it make perfect sense to send them to the US? If they are involved in selling drugs it would make perfect sense to have their people here running the operations.
It makes perfect sense.

My hunch would be if they got their boys back, they'd keep them safely in Venezuela to lay low. (especially if they're "connected")

I don't think there's any shortage of other gang members they could send if that was their goal.

When Pablo Escobar had connections and intermediaries to help get some of his operatives states-side to "conduct business", they estimated he had thousands of people working for him who were "snuck" in. And I'm sure he had many more ready to go if some of them got popped.

I would more liken to the example I mentioned before of a "favor for a favor".

If the Hells Angels did a "favor" for a corrupt leader in one state, and someone in another state stuck a bunch of their guys in a jail full of a rival MC's people where they'd potentially be sitting ducks, I could see them calling in that return favor to get their guys back to their home state where they have a certain level of protection.

rjs330 · Mar 24, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
Because the "conspiracy theory" is presented without any evidence. Adding more of your speculation to theirs does not make evidence.

Im not claiming I have evidence. I'm just stating that it make sense. I doubt very much the gangs or the dictator have papers lying around that say, "Im ordering you to the US. Signed your glorious leader."

But since there is evidence that he has ties to them, it follows that he would want them here dealing and distributing.

Hans Blaster · Mar 24, 2025

rjs330 said:
Im not claiming I have evidence. I'm just stating that it make sense. I doubt very much the gangs or the dictator have papers lying around that say, "Im ordering you to the US. Signed your glorious leader."

But since there is evidence that he has ties to them, it follows that he would want them here dealing and distributing.

It wasn't your conspiracy theory to begin with (it was the purple "V" guy). I do know that all you did was add additional speculation, not claim new evidence. I only was commenting to your post that adding speculation to a baseless conspiracy theory doesn't make it more plausible.

wing2000 · Mar 24, 2025

Valletta said:
On the one hand it saves the U.S. money, on the other hand Venezuela can bide their time and try to get the criminals back into the U.S. the next time the U.S. elects a liberal for president.

Or the Emperor can add Venezuela as the 52nd state after Canada. I hear they have a lot of oil....

rjs330 · Mar 25, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
It wasn't your conspiracy theory to begin with (it was the purple "V" guy). I do know that all you did was add additional speculation, not claim new evidence. I only was commenting to your post that adding speculation to a baseless conspiracy theory doesn't make it more plausible.

It is very plausible. And it makes sense. After all the cartels are doing this all the time. Sending their criminals into the US to run their drug operations.

wing2000 · Mar 25, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
My hunch would be if they got their boys back, they'd keep them safely in Venezuela to lay low. (especially if they're "connected")

I don't think there's any shortage of other gang members they could send if that was their goal.

When Pablo Escobar had connections and intermediaries to help get some of his operatives states-side to "conduct business", they estimated he had thousands of people working for him who were "snuck" in. And I'm sure he had many more ready to go if some of them got popped.

I would more liken to the example I mentioned before of a "favor for a favor".

If the Hells Angels did a "favor" for a corrupt leader in one state, and someone in another state stuck a bunch of their guys in a jail full of a rival MC's people where they'd potentially be sitting ducks, I could see them calling in that return favor to get their guys back to their home state where they have a certain level of protection.

Cartels employ many US citizens and residents to carry out their illegal trade as well. And I would be surprised if the Cartel didn't have paid-off VE government officials to look the other way. With their power and money, they can buy off anyone.

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