Trump’s Popular Vote Victory Was Small by Historical Standards

Akita Suggagaki · Mar 22, 2025

This gives me a bit of hope in our future. The Electoral college was decisive, the average American not quite as decisive.

The 2024 Election by the Numbers

With the Electoral College votes now cast, here is a recap of how Americans voted in 2024.

www.cfr.org

Trump got 77, 284 118 or about 49.8%
Harris got 74, 999, 166 or about 48.3%

He won by 2, 284, 952 votes

That is 152, 283, 328 between them

But there were 156, 302, 318 total votes

That means others got about 4, 018, 990 or about 1.9%

There are 186.5 million registered voters.
There were 30.2 million registered voters who did not vote.

Fantine · Mar 22, 2025

Don't confuse the issue with facts. If they "think" they have a landslide, they'll stay home next time. Fingers crossed.

Ignatius the Kiwi · Mar 22, 2025

Fantine said:
Don't confuse the issue with facts. If they "think" they have a landslide, they'll stay home next time. Fingers crossed.

For a Republican to win the popular vote is unheard of at all. It shows dissatisfaction with your Democrats. Just remember Fantine, Trump won the election. Kamala lost.

Akita Suggagaki · Mar 22, 2025

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
For a Republican to win the popular vote is unheard of at all. It shows dissatisfaction with your Democrats. Just remember Fantine, Trump won the election. Kamala lost.

No doubt or question there. Perhaps remorse for the 30 million who didn't bother.

JSRG · Mar 22, 2025

Akita Suggagaki said:
No doubt or question there. Perhaps remorse for the 30 million who didn't bother.

Where is this 30 million number coming from? The number of eligible voters who did not vote is estimated to be about 89 million. Percentage-wise this is 36% who didn't vote, so turnout (percentage-wise) was worse than in 2020 but higher than 2016 or 2012.

Akita Suggagaki · Mar 22, 2025

JSRG said:
Where is this 30 million number coming from? The number of eligible voters who did not vote is estimated to be about 89 million. Percentage-wise this is 36% who didn't vote, so turnout (percentage-wise) was worse than in 2020 but higher than 2016 or 2012.

30 million based on registered voters.

"This figure is based on the voting-eligible population – not registered voters – in the United States, which the Election Lab defines as “the voting-age population (those 18 years or older in the U.S.) minus ineligible noncitizens and felons.” It is considered a “more consistent” measure of voter turnout, according to the lab."

Yes, eligible voters would be more than registered voters. And it would be a better number to try to influence.

» United States Voter Turnout UF Election Lab

election.lab.ufl.edu

Yarddog · Mar 22, 2025

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
For a Republican to win the popular vote is unheard of at all. It shows dissatisfaction with your Democrats. Just remember Fantine, Trump won the election. Kamala lost.

Biden winning by a landslide didn't stop Republicans from crying for the last four years.

Ignatius the Kiwi · Mar 22, 2025

Yarddog said:
Biden winning by a landslide didn't stop Republicans from crying for the last four years.

And Trump winning hasn't stopped the Democrats from crying out in anguish, gnashing their teeth and renting their garments for 8 years. You guys lost, why not accept it?

Yarddog · Mar 23, 2025

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
And Trump winning hasn't stopped the Democrats from crying out in anguish, gnashing their teeth and renting their garments for 8 years. You guys lost, why not accept it?

I've accepted but that doesn't mean I bow down to a dictator. Republicans don't stop when Democrats win,why should we. See how that works.

Servus · Mar 23, 2025

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
And Trump winning hasn't stopped the Democrats from crying out in anguish, gnashing their teeth and renting their garments for 8 years. You guys lost, why not accept it?

But Trump only got 49.9% LOL MUHAHAHA. That really has to stick in your craw! HAHA. please tell me it irks you just a little. I'm desperate man, toss me a bone.

Akita Suggagaki · Mar 23, 2025

ozso said:
But Trump only got 49.9% LOL MUHAHAHA. That really has to stick in your craw! HAHA. please tell me it irks you just a little. I'm desperate man, toss me a bone.

Just like Trumpster to gloat, brag and rub it in. No such thing as graciousness in MAGA.

Servus · Mar 23, 2025

Akita Suggagaki said:
Just like Trumpster to gloat, brag and rub it in. No such thing as graciousness in MAGA.

Most who speak out against Trump supporters are usually as ungracious as it gets. They go around calling them a cult, idiots, racists, nazis etc etc. And then they expect graciousness in return? Please.

Akita Suggagaki · Mar 23, 2025

ozso said:
Most who speak out against Trump supporters are usually as ungracious as it gets. They go around calling them a cult, idiots, racists, nazis etc etc. And then they expect graciousness in return? Please.

Show me where have done that and I will apologize.

Servus · Mar 23, 2025

Akita Suggagaki said:
Show me where have done that and I will apologize.

It's not about you. What I posted was a reply to Ignatius who was replying to Yarddog.

Michie · Mar 23, 2025

Ugh. Same crap different day.

Laodicean60 · Mar 23, 2025

Liberals must be feeling insecure about the elections by bringing up old news. Many blue counties turned red in California and NY, which shows that Republicans won. I'm sure that a lot of people stayed at home because of the choice of candidates.

America's red shift: Map shows how much each state moved toward Trump

All but two of the 46 states declared so far have shifted toward Donald Trump since 2020.

www.newsweek.com

Akita Suggagaki · Mar 23, 2025

ozso said:
It's not about you. What I posted was a reply to Ignatius who was replying to Yarddog.

Still, on another thread I posted about the death of politeness.
I would like to see it resurrected and am willing to start with myself....at least from today forward.

Akita Suggagaki · Mar 23, 2025

Laodicean60 said:
Liberals must be feeling insecure about the elections by bringing up old news. Many blue counties turned red in California and NY, which shows that Republicans won. I'm sure that a lot of people stayed at home because of the choice of candidates.

America's red shift: Map shows how much each state moved toward Trump

All but two of the 46 states declared so far have shifted toward Donald Trump since 2020.

www.newsweek.com

I think "Liberals" know that their main issues have all been rejected by the voting public. No question about that.
But as SJRD pointed out, 89, million eligible voters stayed home. Probably, as you say, because of the dismal choice.

But if numbers are correct they are disturbing.
77.2 M Trump
74.9 M Harris
4.0 M Other

89 M did not vote at all. Why is that? Access? Apathy? Hopeless?

Laodicean60 · Mar 23, 2025

Akita Suggagaki said:
I think "Liberals" know that their main issues have all been rejected by the voting public.

I think they are focused on small group issues and missed the big picture, the working class.

Akita Suggagaki said:
89 M did not vote at all. Why is that? Access? Apathy? Hopeless?

Maybe tired of the extremism. One was extreme and the other flip-flopped.

Servus · Mar 23, 2025

Akita Suggagaki said:
Still, on another thread I posted about the death of politeness.
I would like to see it resurrected and am willing to start with myself....at least from today forward.

To be honest your post below didn't strike me as being particularly polite.

Akita Suggagaki said:
Just like Trumpster to gloat, brag and rub it in. No such thing as graciousness in MAGA.

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