He lied to get into office.
Let me reiterate what my question was:
"What lies have people fallen for
in regards to Trump's actions while in office? By and large, Trump has been enacting or trying to enact the policies he said he'd do. The things people complain the most about--tariffs and cutting back on government jobs--are exactly the things he
said he'd do, if I remember correctly."
Your big list lists a bunch of times he allegedly lies about things (many of which are valid criticisms, some of which I think Trump had an actual point even if he phrased things poorly), but I didn't ask about times Trump lied. I asked about times he lied by saying he'd or at least try to do something in office, and then didn't--though I'll admit that looking back, I didn't phrase it as well as I could have. But since you said "It's tough to admit that you fell for a bunch of lies" what matters is the policies enacted versus what he said he'd try to do. In your list of various alleged lies, the vast majority of them were just Trump making claims, but weren't promises of things he'd do.
If someone says "I'll do X" and then they do X--or, at the very least, attempt to do so--then it's not falling for a lie.
So I'll be skipping over most of them because it wasn't what I was talking about. There's really only one part of your message where you discuss examples of what I'm talking about. Unfortunately, this batch is also the part where you, unlike your other things,
don't link to anything, so I have to make some guesses on what you talk about and try to search myself for information. So there will be a number of times I say things like being unable to find something, and it's possible I missed something.
But, here we go:
He also said he'd end the Ukraine war before even taking office.
A dumb promise to make, and one
even Trump later said was being somewhat sarcastic about. But certainly he's
trying to end the Ukraine War, and certainly trying harder than Biden did. Biden offered support to Ukraine, which I supported, but did not seem to have any particular idea or plan on how to end the war outside of just giving them a bunch of support and apparently hoping that would somehow end it. Trump is taking steps to try to end it. People can say they don't like the
way he's trying to do it--and I have considerable qualms about it myself--but he's certainly making an effort to
end it, and more so than Biden.
And that prices would be coming down from Day One. Since walked back.
You don't specify exactly what you are referring to, but the main "day one" claim I can find is, according to Snopes (not a source favorable to Trump!), actually a fake:
Fake Truth Social post notwithstanding, the U.S. president did promise during his campaign to "drive down prices" — "starting on Day 1."
www.snopes.com
The
actual "day 1" promises Trump made regarding prices, were to say he would
start bringing down egg and gas down on day 1, meaning... well, he would start doing so, not that the prices would abruptly drop on that very date.
In truth the president's identity often doesn't have all that much to do directly for this. Again, I'm talking more about policies. Did Trump, when promising to do certain things, actually do this? (vague lower prices do not count, what
policies did he say he'd do that he did not?)
But even if we should look only at results,
CNN is reporting gas prices are going down (even though it claims it has nothing to do with Trump, but even if so, we're talking only results in this paragraph). Eggs are more complicated.
They have been dropping in the last few weeks, though this is of course after a bird flu related spike. According to
a graph in this chart, eggs were $4.15 in December, $4.95 in January, $5.90 in February. So that is an increase after Trump took office... but as the article on eggs dropping mentioned, we're currently down to $4.15. I'm not sure if the $4.95 in January primarily reflects Biden or Trump's presidency, but it's at least down from that. So this one is a bit harder to analyze.
He said he's deport 30,000 of the worst illegal immigrants to Guantanamo. Walked back.
The "30,000" claim does not seem to have been something he said prior to the election from what I can tell, but rather something he tried to do after taking office. More specifically, Trump wanted them to set it up so Guantanamo could hold
up to 30,000, according to
this article. This does not seem to have been a promise to send 30,000 there.
That he'd deport at least 11 million immigrants. He doing worse than Biden.
Again, a search doesn't indicate to me Trump ever specifying 11 million for this election. He apparently made that claim during campaigning for his
first term, but not his second. For his second, he used the vaguer claim he would carry out "the largest deportation program in American history."
Fair enough, he failed on his first term promise. But we're not talking about his first, but his second--again, your post's thesis was that people who were supporting Trump's policies presently didn't want to admit they were lied to, but again the question is what were they lied to about? Whether or not Trump succeeds in his desire to have the largest cannot be judged yet, but he's certainly
engaging in the deportation policies he promised.
That he's close the Department of Education. He cannot - only Congress can.
I am not sure if Trump ever promised to unilaterally close it. The 2024 Republican Platform (which, apparently, Trump played a big role in) did call for closing the Department of Education, but did not specify the President would do it unilaterally. Trump is working with a Republican majority in congress, though, so perhaps he could get it through congress.
When doing some searching, I have not found any statements by Trump saying he'd unilaterally get rid of it; he has more frequently made (admittedly vague) statements that "we" will do it, indicating congress could play a part.
So it looks to me like Trump's hope is to get congress to end it, but, failing that, to try to downsize it as best as he can with his own powers. So again we see Trump at least attempting to fulfill a policy promise.
That he'd deny citizenship for those born in the US. He's constitutionally not allowed.
I absolutely believe that any attempt to deny that those born of illegal immigrants or of non-permanent residents in the United States are not citizens runs afoul of the Citizenship Clause, and have spent various posts arguing just that.
However, as strong as the argument is that they are citizens--especially from an originalist standpoint (rather ironically, the "living constitutionalism" that liberals are usually so attached to
allows one to make a quite strong argument against birthright citizenship)--what concerns us is whether Trump made the effort. He did! He signed an executive order saying they weren't. He said he'd do something, and then he did it. The courts have been repeatedly blocking it--correctly, in my view--but he still did it.
So what are the lies Trump made in regards to policies? What things did he say he'd do, and then didn't do? If anything his second term so far has him doing a pretty good job implementing--or trying to implement--the very policies he said he'd enact.