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Gas prices: Fuel costs continue to fall across the country

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Gas prices: Fuel costs continue to fall across the country

Gas prices continued to fall throughout the nation on Tuesday, bringing financial relief to people as consumer prices rose in other areas.​
The national average price for a gallon of regular gas dropped to $3.081, according to AAA. It’s the latest decrease in the fuel sector this month after gradual increases at the pumps in February. Today’s costs are lower than the gas price from a week ago, when it was $3.099 per gallon. It is also cheaper than the average cost of a gallon of regular gas last month, when it was $3.141, and a year ago, when it was $3.397.​
Promises made - promises kept - good start after less than 2 months.
 

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Presidents have less control of gas prices than any other economic factor of the nation.
Gasoline prices are more determined by global price manipulators than any other economic factor of the nation.
 
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Presidents have less control of gas prices than any other economic factor of the nation.
Gasoline prices are more determined by global price manipulators than any other economic factor of the nation.
And yet.... reality speaks differently -
 
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So far I have not seen even a smidgen of decency come out of this White House. I use maybe 12 gallons of gas a week. If a gallon costs 25 cents less I save three bucks a week. Has that been worth the tariffs, the layoffs, the dismantling of departments, the selling out of Ukraine, the seeming alliance with Russia, the measles outbreak with RFK spouting vaccine denials, Elon Musk?
I'd gladly pay the three bucks a week for honest, non-dictatorial, compassionate, decent leadership.
I'll donate the three bucks to the DNC.
 
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So far I have not seen even a smidgen of decency come out of this White House.
Then you are not looking, nor are you listening to the steady stream of profanity coming from the Democratic leadership
I use maybe 12 gallons of gas a week. If a gallon costs 25 cents less I save three bucks a week.
It's not about you - when fuel cost is lowered, cost of everything drops.
Has that been worth the tariffs, the layoffs, the dismantling of departments, the selling out of Ukraine, the seeming alliance with Russia, the measles outbreak with RFK spouting vaccine denials, Elon Musk?
Yes - the irradiation of corruption from the Biden regime - the sheer fat that he built into the system that effects the lower middle income and the poor - Our hostages being returned in days - where Biden could not do it in three years - a peace agreement in the works in just seven weeks, when Biden could not make it happen in years. Elon Musk finding billions of waste and using it to better our daily lives - RFK bringing reality into a bloated system.

It's all worth it.
I'd gladly pay the three bucks a week for honest, non-dictatorial, compassionate, decent leadership.
I'll donate the three bucks to the DNC.
Then you sure don't want to fund a party that is lost and headless - one that supports so many thing the Catholic Church opposes.
 
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And yet.... reality speaks differently -
How is this a reply to what @RDKirk posted? He claimed that Presidents have relatively little control over gas prices. To be fair to you, this is just a statement on his part that has not been defended. But you are simply denying his claim, but giving no evidence as to why we should believe he is wrong.

And there is reason believe that @RDKirk is right. The following is from NPR but it is critical for readers to know that this material was published during Biden's presidency:

Prices at the pump are falling, which is welcome news for Democrats this election season.

And a few weeks ago prices were rising, which was bad news for Democrats.

But no matter which way prices are going — and which way they go next — the cost of fuel simply doesn't have much to do with who is in office.

The government does have some limited levers to try to adjust prices. President Joe Biden's announcement of a massive release of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve earlier this year did move markets — temporarily.
 
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of course it will trend down - the President removed the barriers set by the former president who forced gas to spike.

You mean the President (to be clear, Pres. Biden) who took gas production from COVID lows of gasoline production (which Pres. Trump had helped facilitate, to help protect US petroleum company profits) to making the US the largest petroleum producing country in the world? It is interesting how Pres. Trump offered all these new oil and gas leases on public land only to find that the petroleum companies had no interest, since their production and reserves were already so high.
 
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You mean the President (to be clear, Pres. Biden) who took gas production from COVID lows of gasoline production (which Pres. Trump had helped facilitate, to help protect US petroleum company profits) to making the US the largest petroleum producing country in the world? It is interesting how Pres. Trump offered all these new oil and gas leases on public land only to find that the petroleum companies had no interest, since their production and reserves were already so high.
Yeah.

Oil companies are always going to sell oil for the highest possible price on the global market, including US companies.
They must...US law requires them to make as much money for their stockholders as possible.
 
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Then you are not looking, nor are you listening to the steady stream of profanity coming from the Democratic leadership

It's not about you - when fuel cost is lowered, cost of everything drops.

Yes - the irradiation of corruption from the Biden regime - the sheer fat that he built into the system that effects the lower middle income and the poor - Our hostages being returned in days - where Biden could not do it in three years - a peace agreement in the works in just seven weeks, when Biden could not make it happen in years. Elon Musk finding billions of waste and using it to better our daily lives - RFK bringing reality into a bloated system.

It's all worth it.

Then you sure don't want to fund a party that is lost and headless - one that supports so many thing the Catholic Church opposes.
Just curious as to what media source gives you these ideas? I consider myself to be an educated voter and these ideas seem alien to me.
 
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Reality is going to meet with “summer gas” again, soon.
That's what they said last time and yet we had the lowest prices in recent history.
You mean the President (to be clear, Pres. Biden) who took gas production from COVID lows of gasoline production (which Pres. Trump had helped facilitate, to help protect US petroleum company profits) to making the US the largest petroleum producing country in the world? It is interesting how Pres. Trump offered all these new oil and gas leases on public land only to find that the petroleum companies had no interest, since their production and reserves were already so high.
No - Biden hammered the fuel companies and almost doubled the cost in a matter of months.
Just curious as to what media source gives you these ideas? I consider myself to be an educated voter and these ideas seem alien to me.
I read a pretty wide variety - from both left leaning and right leaning sources, media, main stream media and several blog sites. Getting both sides to an issue. Which 'idea' seems alien to you?
 
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All of them have no factual basis.
Since you did not post any facts to counter - it's nothing more than your opinion -
 
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Since you did not post any facts to counter - it's nothing more than your opinion -

And yet you presented no facts, merely opinions, whereas I gave evidence to show where Trump lowered petroleum production, which is what caused the increase in prices (they started rising prior to Trump leaving office) and the fact that we were producing more petroleum than anyone else in the world under Biden. Not sure how you reconcile Biden "hammered the fuel companies" with how production rose drastically, with more petroleum produced in the US under Biden than there was under Trump.
 
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Trump lowered petroleum production
I wonder why. Do you think demand fell off the cliff along with everything else during this time? Are there any supply and demand issues with lockdowns? Maybe $25 a barrel had something to do with production cuts. At what dollar cost does production become unprofitable?
 
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