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you have to know Gods will in order to pray it.
Not sure what you mean here. rebirth of eternal life?
What life did the human spirit possess that was lost in the fall, and is returned (rebirthed) in the spiritual new birth?
Eternal life is not just about duration. It is also about quality, it is God's own life imparted to the human spirit.
Adam had spiritual life. He had a relationship with God. that as long as he did nto sin, would not be severed.
Spiritual life.
Jesus said will never perish but literally live forever (eternal life) its all about duration. If it is not eternal. then the term is meaningless.
Hes, that is one of the things we receive when we are born again. we receive many things..
You do not understand eternal life, which is spiritual, not physical.
The human spirit is spiritual (non-material), its life is spiritual, even without any connection to God.
Actually, I understand it quite well.
You can not lose eternal life. If you could, its not eternal.
I never said otherwise.
No. It is about duration.
We are not promised a quality of life. we are promised tribulation. we are told we will be hated by the world. we are told we will suffer greatly,
Then its not eternal. And jesus lied.
In adam all die. but this death is not called eternal death.
You will have to forgive me, but I can not believe you read any of these posts. Actually if you read them, you would not have made such a statement. Because I just went back and reread my complete message 9which was drawn over 3 posts) and the term "grace alone" was not used once. So to say my focus is on the word GRACE ALONE, is unfounded and in fact error
Yes, I read them. I can see your focus is on grace alone as a single word.
I am advocating for Grace and as I showed. it is in relation to salvation. How does grace relate to salvation.
No, it is the means of salvation. Not the innitator.
Never said it was. in fact. nothing in my three posts even hinted at the idea I could be saved by human effor. I actually spoke against it )actually the words of scripture I posted did)
Please go back, reread my posts. look at the scriptures I posted. and show me how I got them wrong.
No. Gods grace SAVES US.
You are forgiven for accusing me of being dishonest without requesting clarity. I actually did read them, whether I understand them as you would like me to is an entirely different matter. And by your not so gracious response I don't think this is so.
I was pointing out, that we demonstrate that we are a recipient of grace, by responding to what we hear Him say we should do. The salvic work of Christ becomes a experiential reality.
God's grace is the initiator, meaning everything that pertains to our salvation originates with Him. Even the fact that we call out to Him for this salvation. He is always the source of the good toward us. Even the faith we have is because of Him. This is what I mean by initiator, but we as recipients have the responsibility to respond to all these good things.
Good, then I understand your post correctly. What is not clear is whether you acknowledge that good works is in fact the demonstration of this grace that accompanies our faith?.
I've already forgiven you for your unfounded accusation so I will no longer comment on this.
I never indicated that God's grace does not save us.
Again, you are forgiven.
The Greek word for rapture (catching up) is harpazo (1 Th 4:17).
The church is the assembly of God's people in both the OT (Ac 7:38) and the NT.
Rapture comes from the Latin word Rapture, Which means to catch up.
