Could Canada join the EU?

trophy33 · Mar 5, 2025

Europe needs space and resources, Canada needs people. Let's deal. (The Economist)

Fantine · Mar 5, 2025

They need to ally to combat an unstable, impulsive, plummeting towards dictatorship border country.
And the world needs some strong alliances to put its leader in his place.

Always in His Presence · Mar 5, 2025

EU = EUROPEAN Union - is Canada in Europe?

Friedrich Rubinstein · Mar 5, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
EU = EUROPEAN Union - is Canada in Europe?

Just because something has "European" in its name doesn't mean other countries cannot be part of it. For example, the European Broadcasting Union includes countries like Algeria, Jordan and Egypt.

Ignatius the Kiwi · Mar 5, 2025

Fantine said:
They need to ally to combat an unstable, impulsive, plummeting towards dictatorship border country.
And the world needs some strong alliances to put its leader in his place.

Fantine, if you believe the USA is becoming a Dictatorship why aren't you organizing or seeking to become part of an armed resistance to remove Trump by force? Why are you letting your country become a Fascist dictatorship?

Always in His Presence · Mar 5, 2025

Friedrich Rubinstein said:
Just because something has "European" in its name doesn't mean other countries cannot be part of it. For example, the European Broadcasting Union includes countries like Algeria, Jordan and Egypt.

Just when you think the obvious speaks for itself -

Fantine · Mar 5, 2025

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
Fantine, if you believe the USA is becoming a Dictatorship why aren't you organizing or seeking to become part of an armed resistance to remove Trump by force? Why are you letting your country become a Fascist dictatorship?

Because I believe in democracy. He has been given enough rope...and ceded it to Musk. Once he hurts the 99%'s bottom lines---and he's getting there fast--they will realize what I saw in 10 seconds of exposure.

Ignatius the Kiwi · Mar 5, 2025

Fantine said:
Because I believe in democracy. He has been given enough rope...and ceded it to Musk. Once he hurts the 99%'s bottom lines---and he's getting there fast--they will realize what I saw in 10 seconds of exposure.

But Trump is establishing a dictatorship. Why aren't you willing to resist him? Why is it only empty rhetoric?

JustaPewFiller · Mar 5, 2025

They might join the Nordic Council. They have been flirting with each other for a bit now.

timothyu · Mar 5, 2025

We were supposed to represent the North American Union... one of seven unions. (Europe is not a country but a continent) What is happening now is a breakup of the globalist movement and a blow to the WEF with a return to Nationalism. This is not a bad thing. It's never been about the people but about the money they worship..

trophy33 · Mar 5, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
EU = EUROPEAN Union - is Canada in Europe?

Names can change. For example EUCA? ;-) Or, the name could stay as just a reference to the origins.

Always in His Presence · Mar 5, 2025

trophy33 said:
Names can change. For example EUCA? ;-) Or, the name could stay as just a reference to the origins.

and then again - they might not - you have an admirable imagination though

trophy33 · Mar 5, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
and then again - they might not - you have an admirable imagination though

Do not worry. If Canada or any other developed nation with similar democratic values beneficial for the EU wanted to join, the name would be the last thing ;-)

RileyG · Mar 5, 2025

Doubtful

timothyu · Mar 5, 2025

The whole idea of the unions has always been no borders for movement of goods, but increased border restrictions for people. The pandemic provided a perfect opportunity to test the concept. People clutter up the movement. Better they should stay home and buy the products they themselves make. Have you never noticed the elites never use the same airports as the masses? They have their own set of rules and so it goes with business/finance. We are an inconvenience and yet ironically they need us to manufacture and to sell to, although manufacture is on it's way out thanks to robotics. Of course the whole concept of money may change so they won't need to sell either.

trophy33 · Mar 6, 2025

timothyu said:
The whole idea of the unions has always been no borders for movement of goods, but increased border restrictions for people. The pandemic provided a perfect opportunity to test the concept. People clutter up the movement. Better they should stay home and buy the products they themselves make. Have you never noticed the elites never use the same airports as the masses? They have their own set of rules and so it goes with business/finance. We are an inconvenience and yet ironically they need us to manufacture and to sell to, although manufacture is on it's way out thanks to robotics. Of course the whole concept of money may change so they won't need to sell either.

This sounds a bit like a communism - "we" vs "they". In reality, the modern information society is intertwined in many complex ways and there is no real separation of classes. Mr. Nobody from a ghetto can became a billionaire, one of "them" almost over night with some youtube songs or something like that.

Therefore, there is no need for such pessimism. As information and the access to information is getting easier and easier, also the social mobility and equality becomes easier.

Unions, like the EU, are helping it even more with free movement of people, goods and services.

Arcangl86 · Mar 6, 2025

The whole point of the EU is European Integration. Changing the treaties to allow a non-European state to join would go against the whole purpose of the EU. There is already an organization devoted to Atlanticism and if the US were to leave it, maybe they could also form a trade block similar to the EU, but that's it.

trophy33 · Mar 7, 2025

Arcangl86 said:
The whole point of the EU is European Integration. Changing the treaties to allow a non-European state to join would go against the whole purpose of the EU. There is already an organization devoted to Atlanticism and if the US were to leave it, maybe they could also form a trade block similar to the EU, but that's it.

If Canada can become the 51st state of the USA, then it is much more easier and realistic that they can become a member of the EU.

But both is highly hypothetical, Canada does not plan to do any of those things.

Arcangl86 · Mar 7, 2025

trophy33 said:
If Canada can become the 51st state of the USA, then it is much more easier and realistic that they can become a member of the EU.

For Canada to become part of the United States, as a full state, all that is needed is for 51 Senators and 218 Representatives to approve a bill saying so and then getting it signed by the President. For Canada to become a member of the EU the Treaty on the European Union will need to be revised, which requires consensus from all the member states and separate ratification of the new treaties in each member state, of which there are 27. It then would require all member states to once again agree on adding Canada to the EU. THis is leaving aside all the internal stuff that would need to happen in Canada of course, but it's clearly much easier to become a US state then join the EU. This is also not taking into considerations of political factors of the US and EU.

trophy33 said:
But both is highly hypothetical, Canada does not plan to do any of those things.

Oh of course.

timothyu · Mar 7, 2025

Arcangl86 said:
It then would require all member states to once again agree on adding Canada to the EU.

And of course Canada would have no say in this arrogance.

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