Zelensky met with Democrats before meeting with Trump.

JimR-OCDS · Mar 3, 2025

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).

nypost.com

Maria Billingsley · Mar 3, 2025

JimR-OCDS said:
Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).

nypost.com

Fact check please. It was a bi partisan meeting.

Zelenskyy meets with bipartisan group of senators ahead of tense White House exchange

A group of bipartisan senators met with Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Friday ahead of the tense exchange between the Ukrainian leader, Donald Trump and J.D. Vance.

abcnews.go.com

JimR-OCDS · Mar 3, 2025

Maria Billingsley said:
Fact check please. It was a bi partisan meeting.

Zelenskyy meets with bipartisan group of senators ahead of tense White House exchange

A group of bipartisan senators met with Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Friday ahead of the tense exchange between the Ukrainian leader, Donald Trump and J.D. Vance.

abcnews.go.com

Of course, we know that ABC has lied about Trump before and was sued my Trump and he won a large settlement from them.

However, the post I made said; "Before meeting President Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal that the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)."

Note, Sen Christ Murphy a democrat revealed this.

Maria Billingsley · Mar 3, 2025

JimR-OCDS said:
Of course, we know that ABC has lied about Trump before and was sued my Trump and he won a large settlement from them.

However, the post I made said; Before meeting President Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal that the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

OK, so my link is a lie. Got it.
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JimR-OCDS · Mar 3, 2025

Maria Billingsley said:
OK, so my link is a lie. Got it.
Thanks for sharing.
Be blessed.

Not saying it is a lie, but ABC has in fact been caught lying before and they didn't reveal who was at the meeting other than Graham. Plus,
there may have been another meeting which my post exposed.

What I posted, the article quoted Sen Christ Murphy a democrat. So are you saying he was lying?

Maria Billingsley · Mar 3, 2025

JimR-OCDS said:
Not saying it is a lie, but ABC has in fact been caught lying before and they didn't reveal who was at the meeting other than Graham. Plus,
there may have been another meeting which my post exposed.

What I posted, the article quoted Sen Christ Murphy a democrat. So are you saying he was lying?

No he was not lying, he was at that bi- partisan meeting.

JimR-OCDS · Mar 3, 2025

Maria Billingsley said:
No he was not lying, he was at that bi- partisan meeting.

But he only said "democrats." So, was it after the bipartisan meeting?

Zelensky's behavior with Trump and Vance sure looked like he was instructed
to no sign the agreement.

iluvatar5150 · Mar 3, 2025

JimR-OCDS said:
Of course, we know that ABC has lied about Trump before and was sued my Trump and he won a large settlement from them.

However, the post I made said; "Before meeting President Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal that the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)."

Note, Sen Christ Murphy a democrat revealed this.

JimR-OCDS said:
Not saying it is a lie, but ABC has in fact been caught lying before and they didn't reveal who was at the meeting other than Graham. Plus,
there may have been another meeting which my post exposed.

What I posted, the article quoted Sen Christ Murphy a democrat. So are you saying he was lying?

JimR-OCDS said:
But he only said "democrats." So, was it after the bipartisan meeting?

Zelensky's behavior with Trump and Vance sure looked like he was instructed
to no sign the agreement.

Chris Murphy didn't lie. The author of your NY Post piece made some deceptive comments which you then failed to correctly parse, leading to a misattribution on your part.

The Post author first says this:

Before meeting President Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal that the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

then follows it with the actual quote from Murphy:

“Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine,”

Here's a direct link to the tweet if you're interested.

Notice how Murphy didn't says anything about "Democrats" - that was your Post author's creative editorializing.

The ABC article includes quotes from a couple different senators describing the meeting as "bipartisan", including one tweet from Amy Klobuchar that featured a photo of her with Zelensky, Lindsey Graham, and Chris Coons.

JimR-OCDS · Mar 3, 2025

So, the article didn't quote Murphy directly, but stated it was according to him.

"Before meeting President Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal that the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)."

My quotation remarks were only to point out that it was from the article, not from me.

iluvatar5150 · Mar 3, 2025

JimR-OCDS said:
So, the article didn't quote Murphy directly, but stated it was according to him.

No, as I’ve already pointed out, the article did quote Murphy, however, the quote didn’t support the author’s description, and you incorrectly interpreted the description as a direct quote.

JimR-OCDS said:
My quotation remarks were only to point out that it was from the article, not from me.

Arguing about whether or not Murphy lied is an odd way to make that point.

Either way, nobody said the quote was from you. Your OP didn’t even include any comments of yours - all you posted was a link.

JimR-OCDS · Mar 3, 2025

iluvatar5150 said:
No, as I’ve already pointed out, the article did quote Murphy, however, the quote didn’t support the author’s description, and you incorrectly interpreted the description as a direct quote.

Arguing about whether or not Murphy lied is an odd way to make that point.

Either way, nobody said the quote was from you. Your OP didn’t even include any comments of yours - all you posted was a link.

I'm not saying Murphy lied, not sure where you got that. Posting the link is required in this forum.

Sorry it upsets you!

Zelensky met with Democrats before meeting with Trump.

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