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France has just proved JD Vance was right

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rjs330 said:
I agree and the government isn't censoring them.
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rjs330 said:
Never heard any from the press trying to stop so called mis or disinformation? How about censoring the Harris interview?
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Not if Trump gets his way - see above.
rjs330 said:
I agree, that's my opinion. Others had a different one.
Okay

Hey I'm not berating you. You are entitled to your opinion. I'm just letting you know I think you're wrong. But it's obvious you think people with a string opinion shouldn't be allowed to give them.
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You said, "All you've done here is criticise people for their free speech. Saying how terrible it is to have an opinion." Neither of these things are true.
How you can say that it's "obvious" that I think what I never said nor thought? You ought not to bear false witness.
rjs330 said:
Funny you think to lecture me when I'm actually the one that pointed out those facts to begin with and how the left tries to shut down free speech since the 1st Ammendment won't allow them to do it through the government. Even though they want to.
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rjs330 said:
Nah, bud light just made a stupid advertising decision and the consumers quit buying their product. Consumers are entitled to do that.
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You are denying that there was an organized campaign by the right to censor them for their choice of spokesman? Are you really pretending that it was all organic somehow? This is neither the first nor the last such cancelling campaign.

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Yes, you admitted the government was involved.
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Yeah, just as I "admit" the sky is sometimes blue. Loaded language meant to mislead. I think you're better than that.
 
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DaisyDay said:
www.brookings.edu

Trump’s CBS lawsuit ties media freedom to FCC’s regulatory power | Brookings

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Straw man.
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The press doesn't have a right to be in the oval office during an EO signing. It is a privilege. I am sure there were a hundred other news agencies who were not invited either, but that does not mean they were being "punished." A white house press briefing is different.
 
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Oompa Loompa said:
The press doesn't have a right to be in the oval office during an EO signing. It is a privilege.
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They are being punished for the terms they use, for speech.
 
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Oompa Loompa said:
It is a privilege. I am sure there were a hundred other news agencies who were not invited either, but that does not mean they were being "punished." A white house press briefing is different.
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The AP is being punished solely for their speech.
 
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Oompa Loompa said:
Is deliberately spreading misinformation free speech?
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If not, then we need a govt truth-agency to decide which speech is true and which isnt.

The "conservative" line recently is that this would be a terrible infringement upon liberty. But you perhaps you are a vanguard of the opposite opinion?
 
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DaisyDay said:
You said, "All you've done here is criticise people for their free speech. Saying how terrible it is to have an opinion." Neither of these things are true.
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Of course they are. Your criticism for strong opinions was said here.

"On the contrary, it is demonstrably true. Which regime has censored the free press because it used the "wrong" terms? Which regime has called for the actual imprisonment of media? Which regime has called for broadcast licenses to be pulled over unfavorable coverage? Which party has called for US Representatives to be arrested for informing their constituents of their rights? Which party has called for US representatives to be deported for speech? Give me a break!"

Criticism for those holding a strong opinion.
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You are denying that there was an organized campaign by the right to censor them for their choice of spokesman? Are you really pretending that it was all organic somehow? This is neither the first nor the last such cancelling campaign.
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Yes it was organic. Bud Lite obviously made a grave error in understanding their customers, as have you.
There was no call for censorship. Just like all the transgender nonsense forced speech was a reason Trump got elected. The people voted with their money and their votes.

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This is neither the first nor the last such cancelling campaign.
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The left gas been cancelling people for a long while while now for their speech.

Here's just a few.

Cancel Culture has been a staple of the left. People canceled for something they said or did, even if it was decades ago.
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Yeah, just as I "admit" the sky is sometimes blue.
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Yes, when something has been proven to be true one can't but admit it. Biden was involved in it.
 
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durangodawood said:
If not, then we need a govt truth-agency to decide which speech is true and which isnt.

The "conservative" line recently is that this would be a terrible infringement upon liberty. But you perhaps you are a vanguard of the opposite opinion?
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The question was directed to @DaisyDay . With all due respect, if she needs you to speak for her, she would say so.
 
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Oompa Loompa said:
The question was directed to @DaisyDay . With all due respect, if she needs you to speak for her, she would say so.
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It an open conversation here. Anyone can chime in. If my point is not worth responding to, then don't.
 
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rjs330 said:
This is how the left operates. If there is any question as to how the left wishes to govern in the US we see it in Europe.

Shut down all descent. Fines and closings. Even jail time for anyone who disagrees. It will come to America eventually. It's already here. Not exactly the same way, but it is here.
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Except none of these things happened here.
 
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rjs330 said:
That's demonstrably false. It's the left that wants to shut down free speech.
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Never happened.
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Biden was discovered to be working to influence social media platforms to control speech and information.
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Never happened.

Biden never censored anything.
 
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durangodawood said:
It an open conversation here. Anyone can chime in. If my point is not worth responding to, then don't.
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Okay. That is fair. But I was only responding you out of respect to let you know that I am not ignoring you.
 
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