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Trump broke the trade agreement. Therefore, America cannot be trusted on an international level.

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The trade agreement he signed during his first term.

Canadians are dying from Fentanyl overdoses as well. Trump will continue with the Tariffs no matter how many hoops we jump through. It is obvious he cannot be trusted.

And this "America cannot be trusted to honor agreements" sentiment will remain with America for decades.
Obviously, fentanyl is just the label and not the actual reason. These are just power moves, what Trump wants is for Canada to kiss the hand. No doubt Trump's moves are calculated, with purpose and very strategic, I'm sure he's fantastic at Monopoly. But these are serious issues that affect people's livelihoods including Americans and he's treating them factiously by not addressing the core issues or approaching them critically, instead using them to bolster other agendas. After tariffs are imposed, borders are closed and trade agreements torn in half yet still fentanyl is killing Americans who will he wag the finger at then? So long as he feels he has the upper hand he will pull back and blame it on nonsensical rhetoric. The issue is not really about fentanyl or trade agreements it's about political staging.
 
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Obviously, fentanyl is just the label and not the actual reason. These are just power moves, what Trump wants is for Canada to kiss the hand. No doubt Trump's moves are calculated, with purpose and very strategic, I'm sure he's fantastic at Monopoly. But these are serious issues that affect people's livelihoods including Americans and he's treating them factiously by not addressing the core issues or approaching them critically, instead using them to bolster other agendas. After tariffs are imposed, borders are closed and trade agreements torn in half yet still fentanyl is killing Americans who will he wag the finger at then? So long as he feels he has the upper hand he will pull back and blame it on nonsensical rhetoric. The issue is not really about fentanyl or trade agreements it's about political staging.
This is your opinion to which you are entitled, but the points are direct from the liberal propaganda play book and have little to do with reality.
 
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This is your opinion to which you are entitled, but the points are direct from the liberal propaganda play book and have little to do with reality.
This is just rhetoric (which you are entitled). Do you really think it is fentanyl driven? Of course I could just say it's your opinion and some sort of x group's propaganda, but that wouldn't be critically engaging the the subject would it?
 
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This is just rhetoric (which you are entitled). Do you really think it is fentanyl driven? Of course I could just say it's your opinion and some sort of x group's propaganda, but that wouldn't be critically engaging the the subject would it?
Fentanyl is but one reason. Tariiffs serve multi purposes. Negotiating leverage, simple fairness in trade, raising revenue. Beside the border fentanyl issue we have cartel activity in human trafficking and other criminal endeavors. We have terrorist crossing the border previously undeterred. I know of no one in the administration using fentanyl as the sole reason for any border or trade actions. My comments on your post were just to point typical anti Trump liberal rhetoric rants with no real substance. Just my opinion of course.
 
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Trump broke the trade agreement. The American people voted him in. Therefore, America cannot be trusted on an international level.

Perhaps in the future agreements will be made on a term basis ending when the person who signed it stops being president.
Sadly, US foreign policy is shot for several years. Americans cannot be trusted to put a trustworthy administration in office.

It will take years to recover.
 
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What trade agreement was broken?
Are trade agreements more valuable than the lives of many multiple of thousands of Americans dying every year from fentanyl poisoning and fentanyl overdoses?
The fentanyl problem isn't from Canada. It's China, Mexico, and America. Less than 1% of fentanyl traffic comes through Canada, while most is smuggled in by American citizens, through border crossings.
 
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I disagree. If our nations are really serious in combating the fentanyl crisis killing hundreds of thousands of people every year, then our nations ought to make serious and even drastic steps to do so.
As far as the drug overdose death rate is, the fentanyl isn't as high as you claim. A little less than 110,000 died in 2023. I agree that we need to do more but punishing Canada isn't the way to do it.
 
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As far as the drug overdose death rate is, the fentanyl isn't as high as you claim. A little less than 110,000 died in 2023. I agree that we need to do more but punishing Canada isn't the way to do it.
110,000 dead Americans is a poisonous crisis that must be stopped by any means necessary.
 
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110,000 dead Americans is a poisonous crisis that must be stopped by any means necessary.
How did you feel about COVID-19 vaccines? They saved hundreds of thousands of lives, while those that refused to take them were dying at a rate of 97 to 3, by comparison. COVID-19 was far more dangerous.
 
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Fentanyl is but one reason. Tariiffs serve multi purposes. Negotiating leverage, simple fairness in trade, raising revenue. Beside the border fentanyl issue we have cartel activity in human trafficking and other criminal endeavors. We have terrorist crossing the border previously undeterred. I know of no one in the administration using fentanyl as the sole reason for any border or trade actions. My comments on your post were just to point typical anti Trump liberal rhetoric rants with no real substance. Just my opinion of course.
I agree the reasons are more off script than on, but if we accept this, than we also need to accept the it may be for less noble tactics, like some sort power positioning.
 
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I agree the reasons are more off script than on, but if we accept this, than we also need to accept the it may be for less noble tactics, like some sort power positioning.
Why can we not accept the fact that Trump just wants to return this country to common sense and sanity? That is why he got elected. This hate Trump rhetoric had not played well with much of the voting public.
 
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Why can we not accept the fact that Trump just wants to return this country to common sense and sanity? That is why he got elected. This hate Trump rhetoric had not played well with much of the voting public.
And rhetoric doesn't answer rhetoric. In terms of the Canadian boarders the voiced reason is a head scratcher to the rest of the world. So while perhaps Trump's goals are to return the country to whatever your're calling common sense and sanity, his methods to accomplish that goal doesn't align. This then feels deceptive to his neighbours and creatives a culture of distrust. Maybe that's his goal, who knows, but you can be sure fentanyl is not at the top of his list, he may not even care if it gets checked off.
 
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110,000 dead Americans is a poisonous crisis that must be stopped by any means necessary.
I've got a GREAT way to stop it - and it does not involve economically punishing your closest allies while trying to wean off the seductively cheap goods coming out of China! Again - Trump is doing exactly the wrong thing from a geopolitical point of view. The west cannot hope to compete with China's 1.4 billion people producing cheap solar and wind turbines and EV's and T-shirts in the largest production line in history. But we can avoid being bankrupted as we wean off Chinese goods if we create the most efficient trade block outside of China. "Friend-shoring". We should permanently put in our democratic constitutional cores that we trade with friends in the most efficient way possible - so that whatever our friends can do cheapest - we buy - so that we all win! But Trump is strutting around like a sulky teenager suddenly put in charge of the classroom - punishing those kids he perceives once teased him!

WANT A WAY TO PREVENT DEATHS?

WAR ON DRUGS HAS FAILED

ECONOMIC INCENTIVE: I can’t believe that the conservative right in America has forgotten the basic economics of supply and demand! By making drug use and supply a criminal offence, the drugs in question become scarce, which drives up the price. That creates an IRRESISTABLE incentive for criminal cartels to grow. They now rival huge corporations like Walmart and have their own submarines and engineering departments digging tunnels across the border!

COST TO AMERICA: The USA has 5% of the world’s population, but 25% of the world’s inmates. Are Americans really 5 times more criminal than the rest of the world? No - they are suffering bad drugs policies that much of the world are steering away from. (If Elon’s “DOGE” wants to cut costs - they should investigate the war on drugs as creating 5 times as many jails! Imagine the sheer COST of running all this!?) Comparison of United States incarceration rate with other countries - Wikipedia

ANSWER: Create a mental health policy. Decriminalise drug use. Instead of the threat of jail, create safe injecting rooms where drug users can have a safe environment and not commit theft to support their habit. Social workers can also offer counselling and encouragement and monitor other health conditions the users might have - and avoid further harm. The results? Many drug users deal with their issues in these places - and end up back in the workforce and leaving drugs!
 
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