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To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, age-lasting life...

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Peace in Christ.

We are to come out from among the man-based churches and have nothing to do with them so that His glory light will shine forth from us to the people in the outside darkness who will then see the light and come to us.

They…the man-based churches…will not believe in what they will hear and will persecute us with a “fiery trail” of those who will hear and believe.

This is the “holy” ( to be separate for our sanctification) commandment that is delivered for us to do. We must come out from among them and be separate and not be attached to them (the unclean) so that He will receive us. What communion does light have with darkness?

2Co 6:14-18 KJV
(14) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
(15) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
(16) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
(17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

(18) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Do not then think it “strange” concerning their fiery trial (by those we leave behind in the man-based churches) that will come to try us. Do not think it a "strange thing" that is happening to you for everyone who will leave them behind shall suffer their persecutions.

1Pe 4:12-14 KJV
(12) Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

We are then made partakers of Christ’s sufferings when we do not return evil for their evil speaking of us for leaving them.

We are to rejoice instead so that when His GLORY shall be revealed upon us, then we shall be glad with exceeding joy.

(13) But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

(14) If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

When Christ shall appear (shine in our mortal bodies), then we shall also appear (shine) with Him in glory towards the people of the outside world who are sitting in darkness.

Col 3:4 KJV
(4) When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

When we leave our church families behind for His sake and the gospel's, we shall receive persecution from them...but we will receive again all of those things we left behind....and shall receive an AGE-LASTING life NOW in this current age.

Mar 10:29-30
(29) And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,

"in the world to come eternal life" = in the age the coming age-lasting life. In other words, we are to expect to lay hold of an age-lasting life NOW in this age.

(30) But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life .

By our patient continuance in well doing (in the face of persecutions), we seek for glory and honor and immortality....an age-lasting life NOW in this mortal body.

Rom 2:7 KJV
(7) To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Do not lose heart when they will persecute you for leaving their churches. After you have done the will of God, you will receive the promise: an age-lasting life, glory and honor. This is a NOW thing. Christ shall appear in your mortal body. His glory will shine in you. For yet a little while, He that is coming (in our flesh) shall arrive and will not delay. The glory of God and the light of Christ shall appear upon you...and you will joy exceedingly when it appears.

Heb 10:35-37 KJV
(35) Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
(36) For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

(37) For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.